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I remember the day I started reading OHGamer's Power by Production 2.0. ...It was the day I finally began learning how to play Vicky. So I decided to go for a German kinda unification using sort of the same objectives that OHGamer had in his game along with including several more pieces of land, in my first VIP 0.2 game.
This here was something I posted in another thread a year ago when I had recovered the save game (Which I thought had been lost), and finished the war against Britain.

The Uber-Grossdeutschland
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Europe, under the firm hegemony of Germany. Note the difference between Venice (Italian Republic) and Italy (Italian Monarchy). The Baltic Countries were my Dominions (Representing autonomous regions but still part of Germany).
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The major German colony.
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Self-explanatory. The Greatest nations in the world. Many of those are my satellites, part of my Mittel Europa.
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List of country ordered by Export Value. My total income from Exportations practically equals the sum of the amount of both the second and third major exporters. Also from there, in Ships, one can see the gigantic cost this war had on the UK navy. While my past wars, I tried to avoid as best as possible any major confrontation with the Royal Navy, I had in the last decade invested gigantically in building a sizeable navy. The results were that in the beginning of the war, both mine and the British navy had around 180 ships. Now the UK navy has been substancially reduced. Coupled with the reduced territory and industrial base, that means from now on I should easily become the sole naval power of the world (Except of Japan).
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The list of countries with biggest production share per trade good. Easy to see who dominates manufactured goods. When I created the great depression, I had even greater hegemony then now.
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I had these screenies lying around for so long, I decided to post here in a thread for people just to look at and comment. The empire is nothing out of ordinary, but still it was my most successful empire so far. I eventually got somewhat bored and decided to keep expanding my mitteleuropa against Russia and the Ottoman Empire. Britain got successively crushed, first because it attacked me while she had the capability of destroying Germany, and all the later wars were because I took Goa from Portugal and British India kept attacking me while the UK suffered the full fury of the German, Scottish and Mitteleuropean might repeatedly.

I'll notice that I ended up finishing that game, which meant that I finished unifying Africa (Except for Belgian Congo) , defeated Russia in a war which left the country with 0 divisions, and lost the whole Caucasus all the way to Astrakhan (Armenia and Azerbaijan finally expanded from 1 province countries and Georgia was created while Crimea recieved all Muslim provinces and I gave it Circasian as accepted culture), Belarus (Divided between Poland and Ukraine along ethnic lines since Belarus apparently didn't exist as a country), the Russian possessions to the East of Finland in the Scandinavian peninsula (Given to Finland which was by then my satelite), and the frontier provinces with the Baltic Nations (Given to those countries).

During that, I managed to almost deplete my bottomless treasury building a gigantic fleet of modern ships. By the game's end I had 300 ships. The UK, however never managed to recover after its last war, and ended the game with 80 ships. Japan however was pretty advanced and ended the game with little more than 200 ships.

EDIT: BB values at the screenie time were 679.16 and my German (National) Population was: 94 186 000 :D
 
That is rather large. :D
 
Good game! I did something similar with France once.

EDIT: Ah yes, here is the map I did of it.

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Blue is me, light blue is my satellites. Pinkish shade is British sats, Britain is obviously red.

We got into one heck of a naval arms race by end game...I think we each had over a thousand ships...

That was the only game in which I ever really really took conquest into overdrive. Usually I like to keep things balanced (with me on top, but not overwhelmingly dominant). Interesting thing about this game though is that the while I blew Britain away in pretty much every way, they managed to keep churning out ships at a remarkable rate. They got so far ahead that I could maybe get close to matching them, but never really best them. This created a kind of cold-waresque bipolar world. We fought a few wars, but all were limited to the colonies really. Some fighting occurred when they landed in Europe (I had MUCH more coast to defend obviously with fewer ships), but I always obliterated them with overwhelming force. I never even set foot on British soil. Very interesting game...
 
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Those are cool. :D Being new to the game and having just sorta scratched the surface on understanding how it works, these kinda things are rather inspirational for me :D
 
:D It is pretty fun.

same here.

my only question to these enormous expansions...how the hell do you manage revolts? is there like a magical way to keep them calm once annexed?

Nationalism dies down within ten years. Until then you've just got to build lots of divisions (which shouldn't be too hard if you keep your economy going).

Also, I completely liberalized France so things quieted down in Europe after a while.
 
That is rather large. :D

Hehe, yeah, pretty much. Most of my African expansion started as I overstepped into the spheres of influence of other European powers (By declaring war on the African Native States that they had Guaranteed the independence) I had like two wars with France and two with Britain over Africa.

Good game! I did something similar with France once.

EDIT: Ah yes, here is the map I did of it.

FrenchEmpire.png


Blue is me, light blue is my satellites. Pinkish shade is British sats, Britain is obviously red.

We got into one heck of a naval arms race by end game...I think we each had over a thousand ships...

That was the only game in which I ever really really took conquest into overdrive. Usually I like to keep things balanced (with me on top, but not overwhelmingly dominant). Interesting thing about this game though is that the while I blew Britain away in pretty much every way, they managed to keep churning out ships at a remarkable rate. They got so far ahead that I could maybe get close to matching them, but never really best them. This created a kind of cold-waresque bipolar world. We fought a few wars, but all were limited to the colonies really. Some fighting occurred when they landed in Europe (I had MUCH more coast to defend obviously with fewer ships), but I always obliterated them with overwhelming force. I never even set foot on British soil. Very interesting game...

Woah, that's a pretty awesome screenie there. Did you use in EU 3: HTTT for that? Because I don't have it. :< It'd be a good idea to take a screenie using the WWM to simulate the world at the end of my game as well. :D

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Wow! Nice warmongering there guys! :D

Hehe, thanks! :) If the game hadn't ended in 36, I'm pretty sure British India would have DoW'd me again, after which I would finally bring the smackdown upon India itself. :D

Those are cool. :D Being new to the game and having just sorta scratched the surface on understanding how it works, these kinda things are rather inspirational for me :D

It takes a bit of micromanagement to make your Industrialization as efficient as possible. RP-wise it was a lot of fun. :D

same here.

my only question to these enormous expansions...how the hell do you manage revolts? is there like a magical way to keep them calm once annexed?

:D It is pretty fun.



Nationalism dies down within ten years. Until then you've just got to build lots of divisions (which shouldn't be too hard if you keep your economy going).

Also, I completely liberalized France so things quieted down in Europe after a while.

Indeed, it isn't easy to cope with all the new conquests (As you can see from my screenie from Africa there is a revolt going on there.) and I had quite my share of revolts in Africa (In VIP, there is also historical event native revolts when an European power has certain African regions or provinces), but from the get go, I built German Colonial Army from scratch, using Native armies to keep control (Led by Regular Boer divisions). In the end, they totalled to 50 divisions or so, and were pretty well spread out in Africa, so when revolts began, it usually didn't take long before it was put down. That Colonial Army was also pretty useful in my later wars against Britain and France for the final parts of Africa.

I recall I also had some waves of revolt in Germany itself, though I don't recall why. I think it was due to high War Exhaustion from my war against Britain (The one before that screenshot, whose peace price was more provinces to Scotland and Irish independence).

Some odd behaviour from Britain (That ultimately helped me crush it) was that like, more than half of the British army was garrisoning Ireland. Like more than 100 divisions. Before I tried to land in Ireland, my armies were quickly obliterated by those British mega-stacks of doom. That was until the war before the screenshot where using the army which occupied Britain and bringing further troops from Germany, I unloaded an equally big army in Ireland. Britain lost a lot of troops there. :p
 
Woah, that's a pretty awesome screenie there. Did you use in EU 3: HTTT for that? Because I don't have it. :< It'd be a good idea to take a screenie using the WWM to simulate the world at the end of my game as well. :D

I made it myself actually based on screenshots I took from in game.
 
ADDIT: Ahhhhhh, my 'ol keyboard has a fancy-shmancy "F LOCK" key over there . . . now I'm getting my badboy . . . 4.5 Its March 1848, I won one war against France in which I took Metz, and just recently won the Slesvig Question war and annexed Holstein and also Viborg, Ribe and Flensburg, and Denmark is giving me access and paying indemnities.

So 4.5 is a wee bit high for this point in the game eh?

So juts a general question here: what sort of pace does one need to maintain to achieve that sort of blob? I never seem to do enough conquering before 1850 myself. Gotta have my coffee (and tobacco) first!
 
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ADDIT: Ahhhhhh, my 'ol keyboard has a fancy-shmancy "F LOCK" key over there . . . now I'm getting my badboy . . . 4.5 Its March 1848, I won one war against France in which I took Metz, and just recently won the Slesvig Question war and annexed Holstein and also Viborg, Ribe and Flensburg, and Denmark is giving me access and paying indemnities.

So 4.5 is a wee bit high for this point in the game eh?

So juts a general question here: what sort of pace does one need to maintain to achieve that sort of blob? I never seem to do enough conquering before 1850 myself. Gotta have my coffee (and tobacco) first!
Your ammount of 4.5 is low, it starts getting dangerous around 25 iirc. Don't worry about conquering before 1850. If you want to go for a large German blob, as I did (owning Scandinavia, Balitics, Congress Poland, Netherlands, etc) just expand outwards as Prussia. Annexing any German minors save maybe Hannover and any of the smaller ones you can get in the Seven Weeks War is a waste of BB in my opinion. Take out the Netherlands, ransom Amsterdam for colonies (Indonesia has great Gold and oil supply late game), taking Poland/Baltic/Finland from Russia is not hard at all, given proper use of your much better equipped armies, and allies. Jump in to the Crimean War when you can, grab some land there.
 
ADDIT: Ahhhhhh, my 'ol keyboard has a fancy-shmancy "F LOCK" key over there . . . now I'm getting my badboy . . . 4.5 Its March 1848, I won one war against France in which I took Metz, and just recently won the Slesvig Question war and annexed Holstein and also Viborg, Ribe and Flensburg, and Denmark is giving me access and paying indemnities.

So 4.5 is a wee bit high for this point in the game eh?

So juts a general question here: what sort of pace does one need to maintain to achieve that sort of blob? I never seem to do enough conquering before 1850 myself. Gotta have my coffee (and tobacco) first!

Over the top of my head, I went pretty much historical until the formation of the German Empire. (Except in the Austrian War, I went for the full annexation of the Bohemia-Moravia and in the Slesvig matter where Denmark was satelited by my-then ally UK while I did most of the fighting).

Then I had a little war with the Netherlands for Limburg (Part of the German Condeferation) & satelitization, then got into one or two complicated wars with France which involved Belgium (Which lost land to both me and France, and was satelited by both of us at one point or another, if I'm not mistaken.)
Then came the war against the Austrian Empire, which I fully occupied it, and used neville to force the AI to give me all the provinces minus Vienna, which I used to release the non-German countries (If you notice, I played most of the game under the "Defender of nationalisms" mantle).

Then immediatly after that, Italy attacked my newly released Venice and after a fricking struggle with huge losses on both sides I managed to wipe out like 70% of the entire Italian army which amounted to something like 60 divisions in the battle for Rome (Italy and me constantly poured more and more divisions into the battle. Eventually my armies occupied the provinces surrounding Rome to give the Italian armies the "Encircled" penalty, which decided the battle). Italy lost practically the whole North Italy to me, which I gave it to Venice.

Then the massive BB must have spurred Britain to attack around this time, and the result was Scotland being created.

Afterwards, it was a series of wars on France, Russia, Italy and the Ottoman Empire, coupled with one-time wars with Portugal and Spain for their colonies. And the occasional Britain/British India declaration of war. And the invasion of Switzerland near the end.

At one point I even had France satelited under my control (It was broken during the colonial wars because I declared war on countries with French Guarantee of Independence)
 
Wow, that is quite epic!