My Uboots are dieing for no reason

[Keln]

It's 1950 in the game, and I am just rebuilding the German navy after a long struggle to send the allies off the European continent with the Bolsheviks lined up on my eastern front.

I decided to build a couple of flottes of u-boats to gain some control in the mediterraean so that Rommel can operate with a steady stream of supplies in Africa. I had annexed Greece earlier, and deployed my two flottes of 10 submarines each at two Grecian ports. I let thier org max out and then sent them out to sea to sink whatever comes by. I returned my attentions on freeing the Japanese mainland from the americans who held it, and returned control to the japanese. When I recentered my focus on the mediterranean, I noticed that both of my uboot fleets where almost completely wiped out. Each still had 10 flotillas, but at total number of less than 100 unit strength remained. I hastily sent both flottes back to port, and sent them into the rebuilding cue. I reformed them again later and sent one group to sea to watch them. And every day that went my, a fair number of thier strength disappeared, as if they were a unit in a territory with low infrastructure. Is the mediterranean doing this to my uboots? Or is this a bug?

 

[J.J.E.]

This is WaD. I guess your submarines are intercepting convoys, and the subs loose strength each time they intercept one. IIRC this feature was introduced with 1.06.

 

[Keln]

This is WaD. I guess your submarines are intercepting convoys, and the subs loose strength each time they intercept one. IIRC this feature was introduced with 1.06.

I thought this might be the case except I am not getting messages about intercepting convoys?

 

[Darth Tracid]

What model of U-Boats are you using?


Is the Port province in supply?


Is there a storm in the boat´s province?


Any combats?


What kind of leader(what rank) do your boats have assigned?


Try going to a different province (one next to your lands, where surely no enemy convois can run through) and try it there.

 

[unmerged(15618)]

I thought this might be the case except I am not getting messages about intercepting convoys?

and you havnt disabled that type of messages ?

 

[unmerged(23946)]

If you intercept convyos your subs will lose strength. If that's not the problem, then it might be that they have gone past their maximum range. If the little range icon is red that means they've gone past it and will lose strength everyday until you get them back to port.

 

[Keln]

and you havnt disabled that type of messages ?

It turns out I did, and that must be what is causing the subs to die so quickly. I am using nuclear (atom-boot) submarines, and under supervision of grand admirals for each 10 boat fleet. I haven't got a real navy yet, so submarines are all I have to get the job done, and they seem to do quite well in fleet to fleet battles, but those convoys seem to be kicking thier butts. Makes little sense to me...supply convoys were the bread and butter of submarine-sunken tonnage in the war, not warships. Is there a way to fix this?

 

[J.J.E.]

It turns out I did, and that must be what is causing the subs to die so quickly. I am using nuclear (atom-boot) submarines, and under supervision of grand admirals for each 10 boat fleet. I haven't got a real navy yet, so submarines are all I have to get the job done, and they seem to do quite well in fleet to fleet battles, but those convoys seem to be kicking thier butts. Makes little sense to me...supply convoys were the bread and butter of submarine-sunken tonnage in the war, not warships. Is there a way to fix this?

Well a lot of subs were lost in battles against the convoy protection ships. This is modelled through these losses. There is no way to change it AFAIK, it is harcoded.

 

[unmerged(29738)]

It's 1950 in the game, and I am just rebuilding the German navy after a long struggle to send the allies off the European continent with the Bolsheviks lined up on my eastern front.

I decided to build a couple of flottes of u-boats to gain some control in the mediterraean so that Rommel can operate with a steady stream of supplies in Africa. I had annexed Greece earlier, and deployed my two flottes of 10 submarines each at two Grecian ports. I let thier org max out and then sent them out to sea to sink whatever comes by. I returned my attentions on freeing the Japanese mainland from the americans who held it, and returned control to the japanese. When I recentered my focus on the mediterranean, I noticed that both of my uboot fleets where almost completely wiped out. Each still had 10 flotillas, but at total number of less than 100 unit strength remained. I hastily sent both flottes back to port, and sent them into the rebuilding cue. I reformed them again later and sent one group to sea to watch them. And every day that went my, a fair number of thier strength disappeared, as if they were a unit in a territory with low infrastructure. Is the mediterranean doing this to my uboots? Or is this a bug?

As others have allready said this happens when you intercept convoys, but the interesting thing i have noticed is that damage occurs even when their are no escorts, which is a little unlikly in real life. Also, these interceptions seems to happen on a radam basis, as when i reload my save games sometimes they occur, sometimes they dont. Regarding the message boxes you have to reset this to pop as the default just lists it in the list at the bottom of the screen. Hope this is of help.

 

[el freako]

Also, these interceptions seems to happen on a radam basis, as when i reload my save games sometimes they occur, sometimes they dont.

Of course it's random!

The subs have to detect the convoy (using their surface detection value) before they can attack it - so sometimes they will see them and sometimes they won't (with the success rate being tied to the aforementioned surface dectection value).

 

[unmerged(23946)]

BTW don't use that color, I had to highlight it in order to read it.

 

[gzav]

BTW don't use that color, I had to highlight it in order to read it.

You could say please, being polite never killed anyone...