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StarflighterX

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Hey, noble ones! This post may be silly, but I'm interested in your opinions about some alt history mod ideas I've been carrying out for a while now for the upcoming CK 3. Seeing all those cool stuff the community provides for different PDX titles, I've got that creativity itch, and Crusader Kings 3 gonna be a perfect opportunuity to start. There are 3 ideas now (for me, from a potential creator's and history geek's presective, they are equally interesting), but I can't decide which could be the one to be the most intriguing for the players themselves. So, what do you think, which alt history scenario sounds the more appealing personally for you?

  1. A scenario where Rome managed to conquer Germania and Scandinavia at a certain point, and later it got divided into three Empires, with the alternate Imperium Romanum Septentrionalis (Northern Roman Empire), which was a heavilly germanized and highly developed realm. The Hunnic invasion still occured, but the barbarian invasions of the Empires looked differently, and had other driven forces, like united Slav tribes, alongside the visigoths and the ostrogoths, So new Slavic and Gothic kingdoms appeared on the West, while the Northern Empire still struggling to survive. Oh, and there are viking Roman legions.
  2. The second scenario is, what if the Hunns never arrived, and the Barbarian migration never happened, or had much lower extense. In this case, Rome still falled, but in another way: it's got divided into Romanized kingdoms like the diadochi kingdoms after Alexander's death. In this case, the dark ages occured in a different way, a bit more cultural if you want. In this case we could see how this romanized realms affected the barbarian tribes and made them develop in a faster pace, and new centralized kingdoms appeared much faster than in real History. Basically a logical transition from antiquity to something new.
  3. The last one is on the edge of fantasy. Rome never existed. The greeks and Carthage expanding through the whole Mediterianian, while European tribes developing much more slowly and culturally in a much more different way, and yet at some point the steppe nomads (Scythians and Turks), Carthage and the Greeks staring their expansion into the continent. It's the hardest one to implement and could require completely new cultures and religions. How could the world map look like in the time we know as Middle Ages in this case? It could provide a lot of space for creativity.
As you could see all of them are somehow based on different versions of the Roman Empire's destiny. It's a bit naive from me to hope that someone will take this post serious, but still if you leave some constructive critizism or some feedback about these ideas, I'll be very grateful.
 
If you can mod try implementing them in CK II :)
I actually don't agree with you. The third one is the most historically plausible scenario ;)
The first one is pure fiction you called it "viking romans".
The second one is more realistic, but Romans would rather be Emperors than carve out their kingdoms. Generals who could do it came mostly from hired Germanic people.
The third one is also the most interesting. I had that idea for a long time or rather similar (II Punic War won by Carthage) but I have some different ideas now. Maybe soon you will see one of them, when I will be done with some university stuff, but it's not alternate history ;)
 
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