Btw, why Hungary moved up to latin? I didn't see any discussions about it anywhere and I don't think Hungary really should be in latin group as being a powerful landbased country in eastern Europe.
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I haven't looked at HUN's event file, but if they get Czech later on down the line, we could just have them start out with Magyar and Slavonic, then they get the merged (Czechoslovakian?) culture in some kind of Bohemian Claims event.Byakhiam said:
In my opinion much of the backwardness of the Balkans and surroundings resulted from the turkish invasion stripping those countries of much of their potential.
I will likely include a event to make them fall back to orthodox, but for now I am happy with latin.
Also slovak is fine imo, they are sort of the non-hungarian guys with Hungary, whilst the czech are the same for the germans. So we keep them both.
I will likely include a event to make them fall back to orthodox, but for now I am happy with latin.
Also slovak is fine imo, they are sort of the non-hungarian guys with Hungary, whilst the czech are the same for the germans. So we keep them both.
TheArchduke said:
I would request Byzantium to be either moved to latin at start or be allowed to move to latin with an event later then. Byzantium is not the military mammoth of vanilla OE and it has stronger enemies (Caliphate, Ukraine and stronger Hungary) closer by than vanilla OE.
Only by event, but I am ok with that. But with heavy difficulties.
So let's see what you come up with.
So let's see what you come up with.
Well, I'm mostly worried about balance, as latin is afaik significantly better techgroup than orthodox and Hungary is a very powerful country in military potential from the start, while it's neighbours that could rival it in military potential (Ukraine and Byzantium) would remain in orthodox tech group and thus disadvantaged, while Hungary's latin neighbours are mostly militarily weaker countries in Germany / Italy.
Concerns are noted and Hungary is the first to become orthodox again, but I want to see how it works out. (Hungary is indeed stronger and more unified than others..)
Anatolia is byzantine from the start or not? Forgot that actually.
Anatolia is byzantine from the start or not? Forgot that actually.
Anatolia is orthodox greek as province, but held by Candar in current setup. There was some talk that it could be moved to Byzantium in the setup, to strengthen it and it would still leave Candar with two provs so it can't be annexed in one go.
Well, Anatolia would probably be an immense help. Although Byzantium has many provinces to be sucessful.
I am always worried about the nations that only have like 3-4 "real" core provinces like Savoy, Sicily and Brittany.
I am always worried about the nations that only have like 3-4 "real" core provinces like Savoy, Sicily and Brittany.
While you're talking about byzantium:
I would find it better if the greek culture in Antalya was "moved" to Kastamonu as that would be more logical connected to Trebizond and also make all of Anatolia greek in the north and turkish in the south.
If Byzantines has the option to go latin it should not be option A, since I wouldn't like to make it too unfair for the Caliphate who's later dropped from orthodox to muslim.
If Hungary can be latin I think they should trade it for slavonic culture...
I would find it better if the greek culture in Antalya was "moved" to Kastamonu as that would be more logical connected to Trebizond and also make all of Anatolia greek in the north and turkish in the south.
If Byzantines has the option to go latin it should not be option A, since I wouldn't like to make it too unfair for the Caliphate who's later dropped from orthodox to muslim.
If Hungary can be latin I think they should trade it for slavonic culture...
Culture move from Antalya, hmm if Byakhiam is ok with it, he is the byzantine guy after all.
Concerning latin tech, I will prolly drop them to orthodox again but make reformed religion the choice to go Latin. The other choice makes you catholic and gives you more chances for Poland. Sounds good?
Concerning latin tech, I will prolly drop them to orthodox again but make reformed religion the choice to go Latin. The other choice makes you catholic and gives you more chances for Poland. Sounds good?
A little suggested tweaking:TheArchduke said:Culture move from Antalya, hmm if Byakhiam is ok with it, he is the byzantine guy after all.
Concerning latin tech, I will prolly drop them to orthodox again but make reformed religion the choice to go Latin. The other choice makes you catholic and gives you more chances for Poland. Sounds good?
Since I would like to Aberrate Poland to reformed, going reformed still gives poland, but in exchange for latin tech they could lose slavonic culture and a raised revoltrisk in all catholicslavonic provinces. Deal?
Regarding Antalya -> Kastamonu greek move, that can be done. I agree it would smoothen the cultural borders. I have to check the events that add make some greeks into turks that they work logically after that though.
Giving Hungary latin in a choice that makes it lose slavonic would balance out, I'd think.
Giving Hungary latin in a choice that makes it lose slavonic would balance out, I'd think.