I'm heavily against playing with people who doesnt understand that the idea of EU2 isnt win or lose.
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its not about win or lose its about having fun, there is practically no prospect for fun if nearly every person bordering you can kick your ass and no one else can help or if they do help jet from the war at the first chance they get.
Again, no China, China is too uber compared with the other country picks... as I said, if we're having an extra player then I'm opening a spot in central asia, or even Manchu.
And about the starting date, the 1419 scen needs some tweaks, I have some ideas but im still waiting your opinions, just select the WATK MP Grand Campaign scen and post some comments.
And about the starting date, the 1419 scen needs some tweaks, I have some ideas but im still waiting your opinions, just select the WATK MP Grand Campaign scen and post some comments.
Well, after trashing the save a little bit I came out with these ideas:
1.- Delhi and Mongolia don't have a complete monarch list, Delhi's monarchs ends in 1526 and Mongolia's in 1628 IIRC so I think about two options:
a) The last monarch will recieve a 4-4-4 stats, why? b'cause most of the Asian rulers of other playable countries are crappy (2-3-1, 1-1-2 and that sort of crap).
b) Eliminate the country from the playlist, Delhi -> Gujarat and Mongolia... dunno.
I think that the first option is the most acceptable.
2.- CoT distribution was nuts, I made the following changes:
- Napoli -> Beijing
- Baghdad -> Guanzhou
- Delhi -> Gujarat
- Calicut -> Bangalore
3.- Cultures: I don't think that we will go out and coloniza the world, well, maybe Japan has a shot in the western coast of America and Ayuhh... the Thai player... will go after Indonesia, while Mongolia will surely invade Northern China and Siberia.
Anyways, only one culture per country from start, but, 4 gainable cultures as the game goes by. That way each player can have some flexibility about their expansion.
4.- Tech: I put everyone in the muslim tech group
5.- Cores: Only added some missing cores that Kasperus forgot for Delhi and Vijanyagar, the rest of the roster has acceptable cores.
6.- 6th player possibility: I have no problems about Sid playing, but, he needs to make a commitment with us, to not let our asses hanging again if he losses.
Also, If Sid agrees with the later, then the 6th nation will be the Kazakh Horde, it has decent monarchs and core settings.
1.- Delhi and Mongolia don't have a complete monarch list, Delhi's monarchs ends in 1526 and Mongolia's in 1628 IIRC so I think about two options:
a) The last monarch will recieve a 4-4-4 stats, why? b'cause most of the Asian rulers of other playable countries are crappy (2-3-1, 1-1-2 and that sort of crap).
b) Eliminate the country from the playlist, Delhi -> Gujarat and Mongolia... dunno.
I think that the first option is the most acceptable.
2.- CoT distribution was nuts, I made the following changes:
- Napoli -> Beijing
- Baghdad -> Guanzhou
- Delhi -> Gujarat
- Calicut -> Bangalore
3.- Cultures: I don't think that we will go out and coloniza the world, well, maybe Japan has a shot in the western coast of America and Ayuhh... the Thai player... will go after Indonesia, while Mongolia will surely invade Northern China and Siberia.
Anyways, only one culture per country from start, but, 4 gainable cultures as the game goes by. That way each player can have some flexibility about their expansion.
4.- Tech: I put everyone in the muslim tech group
5.- Cores: Only added some missing cores that Kasperus forgot for Delhi and Vijanyagar, the rest of the roster has acceptable cores.
6.- 6th player possibility: I have no problems about Sid playing, but, he needs to make a commitment with us, to not let our asses hanging again if he losses.
Also, If Sid agrees with the later, then the 6th nation will be the Kazakh Horde, it has decent monarchs and core settings.
The changes look good to me (though im not much of a judge).
are we starting this thursday?
are we starting this thursday?
Aye, If we manage to sort this out between today/tomorrow we can pick countries tuesday and begin this thursday. 
I would love that, but I don't own Vicky, only EU2 and DDSid Meier said:
Doubt it, manchu starts as a 3 prov minor with no Manpower (3 cities with less than 3k of population) and economic resources.Sid Meier said:
And if you join us ou don't have to be Kazakh Horde, we haven't sorted countries yet, only Mongolia to Jorian.
Alek, good ideas... I didnt have time to look at it yet, but I hope to do it tonight.
Also, I think we'll regret to have Sid with us again, but if you want to give him a new chance I am fine with it.
Also, I think we'll regret to have Sid with us again, but if you want to give him a new chance I am fine with it.
Look this is obviously going to be too much effort, I just want to be China, you can even leave all the crippling events in to keep it all Balanced, I'm not expansionistic as China, I'm really passive as it as I focus on just trying to reach the North American coast and preparing myself for when the Euro's arrive. Trust me to fend off the Euro's your going to need me. I can be commited, and there are plenty of Games where I have stayed through the entire time, MTT, QFC2, and we are in 1600's in MP6 and QFC3. Regret all you want but I highly doubt youll have anything to worry about, if I don't get China there aren't many other countries I would feel Ild have fun with. And frankly the arguement of China being overpowered especially in regards to my mid and late game events is ludicrus.
Also, if you have Mongolia and the ability to claim 4 cultures and China is left AI'ed your screwed late game, just dwell on it for a moment, heck I have no problems with Mongolia being human played or Jorian colonizing Siberia ( I personally think everyone should recieve random conquistadores or explorers by 1540 and a ban on map trading until then).
Also, if you have Mongolia and the ability to claim 4 cultures and China is left AI'ed your screwed late game, just dwell on it for a moment, heck I have no problems with Mongolia being human played or Jorian colonizing Siberia ( I personally think everyone should recieve random conquistadores or explorers by 1540 and a ban on map trading until then).
Trust me let me in as China, and I don't care what wars I lose ill be commited to the end, I could even lose my CoTs and I wouldnt leave, I have full confidence I could gain them back.
You are aware that you being China means that your chances of getting ganged increases exponentially as the game progress right? If you play as China you won't get any edits nor bad events slept.Sid Meier said:
Well there is only one edit in particular in regards to realism, see Kasperus didnt really complete the mod my only request is to remove central asian culture from the map and put in the adjacent culture and also I notice Thai as being placed in random places that Thai's have never been a majority in.
I have no objections to sid joining the game, but it just seems to me that china might upset the balance a little to much but i will go with whatever the group decides
I am against China be playable. And as far as I know we didnt have the option to decide what country will we play yet...
Yeah, China does unbalances things, even when the player playing it promises to not DoW anyone and only spend time hyperteching.
It's clear, we don't need a human China, sorry Sid.
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Ok, let's start picking up countries, post three choices
Delhi
Vijanayagar
Japan
Ayunttaya
Kazakh Horde
Those above are the playable, Jorian has Mongolia. I was thinking about adding a Recruitment Center to him as well.
Hmm, I got and Idea, what about a Bengal instead of a Kazakh?
It's clear, we don't need a human China, sorry Sid.
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Ok, let's start picking up countries, post three choices
Delhi
Vijanayagar
Japan
Ayunttaya
Kazakh Horde
Those above are the playable, Jorian has Mongolia. I was thinking about adding a Recruitment Center to him as well.
Hmm, I got and Idea, what about a Bengal instead of a Kazakh?
if you dont have a human China and the ability to claim cultures youll end up with mongolia being China or Japan being China the game will be unbalanced either way being in Asia which Kasperus had in no way finished modding your doomed to an unbalanced scenario either way.
Sid Meier said:
By the time Manchu or whatever conquer/annex China, everyone has grown similarly or even more.
Sid and his love for China are amusing...