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Originally posted by Generalisimo
QUOTED FROM ANOTHER THREAD

as you can see here, Italy is overpowered right now... they should be more weak than they are now... but maybe they will become unplayable... :(
i will modify the IC production to represent what this guy said, i will just move it to the north, I will try to not reduce it more, because you will not be able to even discover a tank. :D
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I totally agree with that (even if I love Italians :D)
And they were good in naval domain but with poor morale to fight in the invader's position (which does them credit).
 
Originally posted by Tartarin
But, maybe I'm saying a mistake ;), even if the FF's capital is in the inland (Brazzaville or Bangui), this city will have the ability of stocking (and receiving) resources because of its capital status ? (with, for example, english convoys providing oil & supplies to FF by the coastal "Pointe Noire" province and routing to Brazzaville)

If it doesn't work, maybe the capital should be in coastal province of Congo or Gabon with militia. (but under the risk of Argentina's invasion again) Or in Tahiti or New Caledonia (But too far from Europe).
So, my concern here is just to be a minimum historical (correct province's allocation between Vichy and FF when Vichy appears).
Yes, it's true, I'm a pernickety man :D !
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i thought that you said to give them ONLY the inland provinces, so they will have no way to send resources to there. :D
yes, if we gave them a port that it is connected by land by FF soil, then we have no problem.
The problem is that all those territories you mention changed not inmediatelly, it took some time, so seeing that they are annexed the first week after Vichy is created.... :(
 
... and always takes Malvinas :D

Maybe it's time to move the French discussion to the French thread ;) Just to keep this on-topic it might be good if we try to keep this thread for reporting issues and direct any follow-up discussion to the regional threads. Probably won't work of course ;)
 
ok, we will move the discusion of france to there. :D

about Argentina:
yes, they are a bit "fascist" fanatic... :D :D
maybe we can move them a bit to the middle to stop that, and the same with nationalist spain ;)

They always takes Malvinas??... what a coincidence... :p :D :D
 
It doesn't seem Italy responds to ethiopia requesting peace, and war continues. Tried two times.

Although Hungary doesn't have a navy, I wanna point out that the Hungary's naval minister in game is a land commander, and technically if they were to have anyone as naval leader it would be Horty, as he is actually a former Austo-Hungarian Grand Admiral.

BTW: Its rather stupid when NatChi, USA and Japan are both heavily aligned with communism, is there any way to stop USSR from influencing these nations?
 
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Originally posted by Burris
It doesn't seem Italy responds to ethiopia requesting peace, and war continues. Tried two times.

Although Hungary doesn't have a navy, I wanna point out that the Hungary's naval minister in game is a land commander, and technically if they were to have anyone as naval leader it would be Horty, as he is actually a former Austo-Hungarian Grand Admiral.

BTW: Its rather stupid when NatChi, USA and Japan are both heavily aligned with communism, is there any way to stop USSR from influencing these nations?
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yes, we can remove those countries from their list, the problem is that they are there to counteract the player DIs, if the player just watch... :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Burris
BTW: Its rather stupid when NatChi, USA and Japan are both heavily aligned with communism, is there any way to stop USSR from influencing these nations?
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Go to ..\ai\ussr.ai and look for

influence = {
AFG ALB BUL CHI CZE GRE HUN
IND INO IRQ JAP MAN MON PER ROM
SLO SPR SWE TAN TIB TUR YUG
}

Take away tags for those countries you don't think should be influenced. Net effect (apart from what G. said) will be that the countries you don't delete will become Commie-aligned earlier.

How far into the game are you? Generally I find that Japan swings left early on but then goes fascist later.
 
Its not so much Japan that bothers me, but it makes no sense to have the USSR influence the US successfully.

Also, shouldn't Slovenia (Ljublina Province) be an Italian Demand?
 
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USSR should be able to influence these nations, the problem is that after the 5th or 6th game of having the USA and Japan completely influenced by communism it gets pretty annoying. Especially when Japan never declares war on anyone.
 
Trust me, USA would NOT be influenced by Soviet Politics.

The countries that should be influenced:

Persia, Afghanistan, Turkey, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia.

EDIT: Is there any way to add events? I want to use my events coordinated with CORE.
 
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Burris, sorry I don't accept faith statements - give me sources, online or offline, with an explanation of why. IMHO US politics were definitely affected by foreign countries during the 1936 to 1948 time period and I see no reason why the USSR would be excluded. The suggestion to remove this ability for the AI is also flawed since a human player would still be able to influence the US. BTW, there's a thread for discussing influence lists to let's continue the discussion there.


Generalisimo, I noticed that you've increased the UK AI weighting to avoid coastal forts for landing. Did you try very high values? There's a constant stream of 1 division assaults on Wilhelmshafen, easily defeated by 1 mech division in coastal forts :(

All, there appears to be a problem with event 492000 in nomonhan.txt. At a late starge I added two control = as suggested by another modder and this appears to have caused the events to fail to trigger. Has anybody actually seen them fire with the C.O.R.E. beta release? If not, just comment out the two control checks. They will be removed in the next release.
 
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Originally posted by DeathwisH
USSR should be able to influence these nations, the problem is that after the 5th or 6th game of having the USA and Japan completely influenced by communism it gets pretty annoying. Especially when Japan never declares war on anyone.
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DeathwisH, AFAIK there's no link between political alignment and outcome of elections or decisions to DOW. If Japan does not elect right in 1937 then they will be peaceful - it's a 1 in 10 outcome. If it happens and you are playing Germany try couping them to fascism, that should ensure a DOW within days against ComChi and then NatChi.

FYI I've got a Marco Polo Bridge Incident event that almost ensures that war will happen but I don't like to use it without the rest of the events leading up to conflict between Japan and China so it wasn't included in this release.


EDIT: I'm running a handsoff game right now. Japan elected "Keep Current Government" and there was no war in '37. In 1940, they were fully influenced towards Communism (Germany had backed out of Anti-Comintern Pact) but as their WE score reached 100 they DOW'ed both ComChi and NatChi.

It's a great game actually, the Japanese had a hard fight (84 divs vs 138 NatChi divs) but after two years of hard fighting managed to achieve peace through the Kiri Project. Now Japan and NatChi (down to 64 divisions) are fighting together against ComChi who own about 10 provinces and field 58 (45 militia, 13 other) army divisions. The Japanese are strat-bombing and fighting hard in the mountains while the NatChi are mostly doing territorial garrison duty.

Meanwhile in Europe Germany has a hard fight against the USSR, having taken Leningrad and Moscow but failing to make progress in Ukraine. As they are over-extended and the winter of '41 just struck they are going to be in trouble unless the Japanese join the fight.
 
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Originally posted by Steel
Burris, sorry I don't accept faith statements - give me sources, online or offline, with an explanation of why. IMHO US politics were definitely affected by foreign countries during the 1936 to 1948 time period and I see no reason why the USSR would be excluded. The suggestion to remove this ability for the AI is also flawed since a human player would still be able to influence the US. BTW, there's a thread for discussing influence lists to let's continue the discussion there.


Generalisimo, I noticed that you've increased the UK AI weighting to avoid coastal forts for landing. Did you try very high values? There's a constant stream of 1 division assaults on Wilhelmshafen, easily defeated by 1 mech division in coastal forts :(

All, there appears to be a problem with event 492000 in nomonhan.txt. At a late starge I added two control = as suggested by another modder and this appears to have caused the events to fail to trigger. Has anybody actually seen them fire with the C.O.R.E. beta release? If not, just comment out the two control checks. They will be removed in the next release.
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America was more anti communist then anti nazi.. you can't find statements about this, its just well known..
 
I get a database mismatch error while playing as the soviet union during september-october 1936:confused: :(
 
Just downloaded and started playing, very impressed. The new events really add to the game. However, Playing as the USSR I cannot help noticing that the text associated with the events aren`t written by people terribly fluent in english. No disrespect, all of you are doing a great job (that I couldn`t do!), but it sort of detracts from the experience. I have taken the liberty of editing the texts, I`d like to share if there is any interest, but I`m not sure how to attach files ??
 
Hi, great work! Thanks!
BTW I did run 2 fast game tests and I reported the following things:
Game 1) Everything did well till July 4th 1944 then I got a CTD and it was not possible to end the game anymore. BTW I reported that in the game every power did act historically but Japan that was out of the game since 1939 cause it was not able to proceed in China (Commies did conquer Machuria and Korea). Furthermore I did notice that Italy had problems in mantaining Somalia as conquered cause Somalia did revolt twice. I did notice that Italy Albania events did non appear and Albania was neutral till 1944 CTD.
Game 2) CTD in July 1936

I'll try to test this Beta more times but I think it is impossible to avoid those CTDs

:) :) :) :) :)
 
I have also come across the case of events happening or not at their own will.
I played twice with Germany,and the olympics event did not happen both times!Also, the Italo Balbo event did not happen both times.
Moreover,the "mismatch" ctd happened in both my games with Rep Spain.
Most italians events frequently cause a ctd,if you are not Italy.
Finally,in the event for Germany to send officers to the spanish fascists,they never seem to return to the forcepool.
I like the way CORE is headed,but we must stay alert for those damn bugs :) .
 
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