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Originally posted by Generalisimo
@Copper Nicus:
I decided to keep France & Uk Paradox leaders files instead of ours. The main difference were the polish leaders, that due to the imposibility to send them to sleep, there is no sense in having them from 1936... :(
anyone disagree?
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Ok, we can remove them - just be sure to remove them from both UK and SOV lists, as well from the events.
I still don't get how "waking up" leaders is conducted in 1.05 - apparently Paradox added some events where they wake up romanian, hungarian and austrian leaders, but they use sleepleader commands.:confused:
 
Originally posted by Laffertytig
will core 0.5 be ready later on today as im holding off starting a new game
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I've not yet received updated leaders and ministers files. Also once I get them, I'll need to integrate modified events (every file that uses a minister or leader command in triggers of effects has changed) into the v0.5 event files. This is where the high number of events in C.O.R.E. really hurts us :(

At best, if I've got the files when I get back home tonight then a v0.5 release could be available around midnight (GMT) tonight. That's assuming that the game runs ok at once, if there's any CTD/hang issues then I'll need longer. If I don't get the updated files today then the release get's pushed back another 24 hours...

Look at the bright side: every day that goes by means more tweaks and fixes go in, making it an even better release ;)
 
Originally posted by JRaup
Just to be annoying, can I get someone to put the port in Cork in teh right sea zone? Currently it's on Dingle Bay, when it should be moved south to Bantry Bay.
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Ok, do I need to change the location of the port icon or change the seazone or both? If I need to move the port icon then ideally post a screenshot of that province with X marks the spot edited in :)
 
Originally posted by Steel
Ok, do I need to change the location of the port icon or change the seazone or both? If I need to move the port icon then ideally post a screenshot of that province with X marks the spot edited in :)
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Both actually, I think. :p
I'll get you a screen shot sometime in the next day or so. As soon as I get a chance to sit down and do it.
 
Aarhus

Hi Steel

While you are at it can you also change it so that it is possible to invade the danish Aarhus province from any of the adjacent sea areas as it is really just one big beach most of the way around entire jutland.

If we can add aditional beaches then one in Kolding would be appropriate also with invasion possible from the north sea and the sunds.

Ghost_dk
 
Originally posted by Steel
Adjacency is limited to one sea zone, ie you can only have one beach per province.
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bummer.

can you change it to be accessible to the west coast then as that is where the longes stretches of beach are and where the germans built most bunkers as well?

Ghost_dk
 
Originally posted by Steel
Ok, I will look at that tonight.

If there's any more province change requests then let's talk about it in the appropriate region threads.
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ok, but that way we will never reach page 22 :D
 
Originally posted by stybb
How hard is it to make a command that makes a peace.. but the taken areas will still be as when the war where.. ?

when its peace now all areas is giving back..
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IMHO it can't be done unless we are talking about a single province.
 
Originally posted by Copper Nicus
Ok, we can remove them - just be sure to remove them from both UK and SOV lists, as well from the events.
I still don't get how "waking up" leaders is conducted in 1.05 - apparently Paradox added some events where they wake up romanian, hungarian and austrian leaders, but they use sleepleader commands.:confused:
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As far as i know, that was the first idea, but it was "deleted" before the release....
You will see that you have all austrian leaders in germany in 1936, even before the anschluss... :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Generalisimo
As far as i know, that was the first idea, but it was "deleted" before the release....
You will see that you have all austrian leaders in germany in 1936, even before the anschluss... :rolleyes:
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Oh, so they have the same problem as we have? ;)

BTW, best part of the new 1.05 event's is "AI cheat's" block, where all AI mayors get conversion techs for free. So much for struggling GER or UK with the sea blocade... :D
 
Originally posted by Copper Nicus
Oh, so they have the same problem as we have? ;)
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yes, it looks like... i hope they reintroduce the "wake_leader" in future versions.... :D

Originally posted by Copper Nicus
BTW, best part of the new 1.05 event's is "AI cheat's" block, where all AI mayors get conversion techs for free. So much for struggling GER or UK with the sea blocade... :D
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Yes, i have seen that... :D
 
Update on v0.5

I just finished resolving some issues with minister files and updating every event using a minister/leader trigger or effect, thanks to great work by Generalisimo :)

All the integration is now completed and the release candidate is running stable on one of my test systems. We need to run some more test games to verify that there is no CTD issues but I believe v0.5 will be available sometime tomorrow (it's almost tomorrow already here!) ;) Exactly when depends on when we get the website updated etc but you'll know when it happens :cool:


To give you an idea of what's changed:

v0.5 change history
- reworked event 902000 triggers (now, even linked to event 902026) in core_MEast.txt
- renamed event 1052019 to the proper ID 1052009 in core_SAmerica.txt
- event 322003 requires FRD or Truman in office in core_US.txt
- corrected the ID of FDR in event 322002 in core_US.txt
- corrected a lot of scripting errors in various Mexican events in core_CAmerica.txt
- Updated triggers for Iceland events in altmark.txt
- Updated End of Winter War triggers in 101.txt
- Removed addcore = 821 from ussr.txt
- Updated AI for Finland
- Updated AI for USSR
- Removed all wakeleader, reveal_leader_loyalty, reveal_minister_loyalty and minister_loyalty
- Disabled 4 events that used detect_units
- Moved all directories and files into \mod-CORE directory
- Added UK oil and supply stockpiles
- Updated v1.05 province.csv with bugfixes
- Created provinces.inc for province changes (manpower, resources etc)
- Updated v1.05 country.csv (added ETH sprites)
- Updated load and menu screen with bitmaps by Burris
- Added Karachi claim to Afghanistan
- Added Karachi port (adj. 1453 Karachi Sea) and beach
- Switched ECU port/beach from Quito to Guyaquil
- Added techs for Iraq
- Updated triggers for Blue Division event in core_Iberia.txt
- Updated triggers for Altmark and Weserubung events
- Updated world market trades (thanks Ghost_dk)
- Updated convoys for ITA, BEL, HOL, FRA, ENG, JAP, PHI, POR
- Updated with TechMod changes to AI, INC, TECH and UNIT files (see TechMod docs)
- Updated with TechMod changes to germany.txt, ai.txt and core_Germany.txt
- Added Enigma handed over to the Allies (by Halibutt) in core_France.txt
- Updated Czech technology event in bolted.txt
- Moved province.csv to \db due to mod-dir bug
- Moved \AI directory to \Hearts of Iron due to mod-dir bug
- Moved ETH sprites to \gfx\map\units folder due to mod-dir bug
- Reviewed all INC files (some 1.05 changes to national provinces)
- Additional updates to world market
- Changed HOL convoys
- Updated provinces.inc for SCH, SWE, NOR
- Updated province.csv (tweaked 8 beach locations)
- Fixed Muscat problem in province.csv
- Updated UK AI files
- Added FAQ
- Added JRaup African infrastructure changes
- Added OHGamer Egyptian manpower changes
- Tweaked Yugoslavian AI
- Copied config.eu into \mod-CORE due to mod-dir quirk
- Tweaked another 4 beach locations in province.csv
- Fixed Liberia puppet/MA/MC status
- Updated installer to backup Paradox AI files
- Updated all triggers and event effects which reference leaders or ministers
- Removed AI cheat events from cored_AI.txt
- Increased offset on some AI events
- Added some resources to China after fall of Nanjing
- Increase Chinese starting dissent
- Added militia garrison for Japan in Indochina to prevent NatChi quick seizure
- Deleted sleepleaders.txt (buggy, causes CTD) and 105.txt (not used)
- Updated core_Events.txt
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- Fixed core_UK.txt
- Fixed Persian minister file (Reza Pahlavi 53001 duplicate ID, changed to 53049)
- Added new Bolivian minister file from Birch23
- Fixed PRU, COL, ECU minister files and some more problems in PER file
- Modified Chinese starting trades
- Added admiral section to Spain
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Oooh, really it was a lot of work, Steel. You deserve this admiration emoticon! :eek: :D

I have just one question: what are the changes made to text.csv since 0.3? I used a spanish text.csv adding the new CORE modifications to play 0.3, and now i will need to add more things, because i think something was added with 0.4, isn't it? Please, if you could tell me where are the new changes i will be able to find them and add them to my spanish text.csv more easily.;)
 
:eek: :eek: Damn, Steel, where do you get the time to do all this work? I barely have the time to do my little ECU-PRU-COL nitpicking while you compile a whole new package in some days :eek: :eek:

Awesome work, Steel. Thanks :cool:
 
I couldn't do it without the help of the rest of the team so thanks to everybody who contributed :cool: We've got a great development team going here :)

I'm just reviewing a v0.5 handsoff game... I'll post some log entries and observations here, but remember it's just one game so could be quirky outcomes.


SCW: Ahistorical outcome and a fairly fast war, but I don't think there's a problem with Spain. I really like the discussion in the Iberia thread, I hope we can go ahead with adding those new countries.
July 18, 1936 : Republican Spain declared war upon Nationalist Spain.
January 10, 1937 : Republican Spain annexed Nationalist Spain.


There's some problems with the Italy Front settings, I'll tweak that tonight before we publish the final version. They don't do badly, but too many of their attacks are called off are in Ethiopia. In the later game they sometimes do better (as in this game) and sometimes collapse.
February 26, 1937 : Italy annexed Ethiopia.
March 26, 1939 : Italy declared war upon Albania.
September 14, 1941 : Bulgaria annexed Albania.
April 7, 1943 : Italy annexed Egypt.
June 8, 1943 : Italy annexed Lebanon.
November 18, 1943 : Italy annexed Syria.


You can judge the speed of the Japanese advance by how quickly the Huayuankow Dikes are flooded. In this case it basically took Japan six weeks to take northern China. However it took six years to annex NatChi and ComChi was never annexed. The main issue is that Japan isn't switching to the Southern Resource Area (ie Phillipines, DEI etc) because China is keeping them too busy.
July 19, 1937 : Japan declared war upon Nationalist China.
September 5, 1937 : Nationalist China went with Destroy the Huayuankow Dike in The Chengchow Flooding (CHI).
September 8, 1937 : Japan went with Reinforce the Navy garrison and seize Shanghai in Shanghai Incident (Japan).
May 5, 1943 : Japan annexed Nationalist China.


Poland declined in event, accepted via normal diplo... it seems pretty much certain that Poland will be part of Allies. German AI doesn't seem to have any issues defeating the Polish AI and then switching to an aggressive campaign in the West.
March 22, 1938 : Germany annexed Austria.
March 15, 1939 : Germany had The End of Czechoslovakia - Czechs annexed .
March 15, 1939 : Slovakia had The End of Czechoslovakia .
March 30, 1939 : Poland went with Decline in The UK offers an Alliance.
March 30, 1939 : United Kingdom had Guarantee Independence of Poland - Poland Declines
May 8, 1939 : Poland entered a Military Alliance with United Kingdom
August 30, 1939 : Germany and Slovakia declared war upon Poland, United Kingdom,
October 25, 1939 : Germany annexed Poland
December 8, 1939 : Germany annexed Luxemburg.
March 23, 1940 : Canada had Paris Falls! .


Germany was not able to pull this off, Norway remained independent for the rest of the game.
October 28, 1939 : Norway went with Protest against British violation of neutrality! in The Altmark Incident (NOR).
October 28, 1939 : Germany went with Secretly prepare for Fall Weserubung. in The Altmark Incident (GER).
January 1, 1940 : Germany went with Invade Norway! in Fall Weserubung (GER).


I think the problems with the Winter War has been resolved. It's perhaps back to being a little bit too quick but too early to judge.
November 18, 1939 : Soviet Union and Mongolia declared war upon Finland.
January 10, 1940 : Soviet Union had End of the Finnish Winter War - Finns accepts .


The Peru-Ecuador conflict is now working well, occuring sometime after the Allies are at war with the Axis and thus avoiding the Sphere of Influence problems. The war took longer than expected, perhaps this is due to long marching times and org loss.
February 6, 1940 : Peru went with Let's go to war in The border war between Ecuador and peru.
February 6, 1940 : Peru declared war upon Ecuador.
February 27, 1940 : Colombia went with Remain neutral in The Ecuador-Perú war.
October 1, 1940 : Peru had The protocol of Rio de Janeiro .


The growth of the Axis
March 15, 1939 : Slovakia entered a Military Alliance with Germany.
August 30, 1939 : Hungary entered a Military Alliance with Germany
November 2, 1939 : Romania entered a Military Alliance with Germany
December 13, 1939 : Italy entered a Military Alliance with Germany
May 18, 1940 : Japan entered a Military Alliance with Germany
June 14, 1940 : Bulgaria entered a Military Alliance with Germany
July 13, 1940 : Bolivia entered a Military Alliance with Germany
August 27, 1940 : Finland entered a Military Alliance with Germany
September 1, 1940 : Afghanistan entered a Military Alliance with Germany
September 21, 1940 : Yugoslavia entered a Military Alliance with Germany
November 2, 1941 : Portugal entered a Military Alliance with Germany
February 24, 1942 : Greece entered a Military Alliance with Germany
March 12, 1942 : Argentina entered a Military Alliance with Germany
May 1, 1942 : Iraq entered a Military Alliance with Germany
June 15, 1942 : Paraguay entered a Military Alliance with Germany
July 23, 1943 : Turkey entered a Military Alliance with Germany


Early Barbarossa with Japan opening a second front in the Far East. You can judge the German speed of advance by the Dam event, but the USSR never collapsed. The Japanese took Mongolia but never got much farther than that.
July 22, 1940 : Germany, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Italy, Japan, Manchukuo, Inner Mongolia, Bulgaria and Bolivia declared war upon Soviet Union and Mongolia.
October 13, 1940 : Inner Mongolia annexed Mongolia.
October 30, 1940 : Soviet Union went with Destroy the dam! in Destruction of the Dnieper Dam


Yugoslavian event chain occurred but as Barbarossa had already started they were able to hold out against Axis for 15 months
September 21, 1940 : Yugoslavia had Yugoslavia leaves the Axis! .
September 21, 1940 : United Kingdom had England signs peace with Yugoslavia .
September 21, 1940 : United Kingdom have made Yugoslavia their puppet state.
September 21, 1940 : United Kingdom had England ends Yugoslav puppet status .
September 21, 1940 : Yugoslavia had England ends Yugoslav puppet status .
January 1, 1942 : Romania annexed Yugoslavia.


Afghanistan lasted less than two years after joining the Axis.
September 1, 1940 : Afghanistan entered a Military Alliance with Germany
August 11, 1942 : United Kingdom annexed Afghanistan.


The Persian event chain fired and Persia lasted 19 hours :eek:
August 17, 1940 : United Kingdom went with Get Soviet Agreement in UK Plans Intervention In Persia.
August 17, 1940 : Soviet Union went with Demand Persia Grant Access in The USSR Demands Access In Persia.
August 17, 1940 : Persia went with Reject Allies Demand in Gaining Allied Access To Persia : Persia's Response.
August 17, 1940 : United Kingdom went with Force The Issue in Persia rejects Allies Demands For Access.
August 17, 1940 : United Kingdom, France, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, South Africa, Lebanon, Syria, Belgium, Netherlands, Egypt and Norway declared war upon Persia.
August 17, 1940 : Soviet Union went with Join the intervention in Britain has declared war on Persia.
August 17, 1940 : Soviet Union and Mongolia declared war upon Persia.
August 17, 1940 : Soviet Union had Persia has fallen .
August 17, 1940 : Soviet Union annexed Persia.


The USA entered the war in 1943 and quickly made it clear how they would defeat Germany. I've included the line on Venezuela to show the Allied alliance membership.
May 29, 1943 : USA entered a Military Alliance with United Kingdom
June 11, 1943 : Bruxelles has been destroyed by a nuclear bomb.
November 19, 1943 : Venezuela entered a Military Alliance with United Kingdom, France, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, South Africa, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway, USA, Philippines and Liberia.



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Originally posted by Steel
June 11, 1943 : Bruxelles has been destroyed by a nuclear bomb.
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So much for the EU... ;)

Steel, if you could test game again with old infantry-type units speed values (speed = 3)? After some games with 1.05 I think that old values were better...

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Also, as a last time change - did you follow AI parameters disscussion? Mathguy posted something we can use to optimize strat redployment times.
 
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