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Al-Khalidi

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If I remember correctly, ck2 had a feature allowing you to migrate as nomads wherever you like, which allowed for some kinda crazy scenarios, not that there shouldnt be such possibility in ck3, which does not emphasize historical realism.

Question: is it already known how far will we be able to migrate in the new nomad dlc? Can we, say, invade and settle in Slovenia as Khazars?
 
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You can expand the Steppe into the Caucuses and presumably beyond, so I would assume you can migrate at least that far.
 
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It is based on current Dominance Level. You can see it in these pictures, in where the striped lines start (playing as the Yrkhu Buryats). Of course, things might change before release, etc. etc.

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Thanks for the share. So based on this, if I've understood it correctly. Then you can't migrate to the white zones such as Anatolia, Syria, Egypt etc?
 
Snow Crystal said:
It is based on current Dominance Level. You can see it in these pictures, in where the striped lines start (playing as the Yrkhu Buryats). Of course, things might change before release, etc. etc.

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Please allow migration to realms of sedentary realms in the form of the sedentary state taking nomads in and settling them, kind of like settling adventurers in the game.

Historical examples within the timespan of existing start dates I can think of being Cumans in Georgia and Cumans and Pechenegs in Byzantine Empire. Magyars may also have taken in Cumans and Pechenegs in this time period, I’m not sure, but they definitely had Cumans in 1200s.
 
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You cannot migrate to areas outside of the Great Steppe situation, but you have special types of wars that will allow you to conquer areas outside of the Great Steppe, and we have decisions to make certain regions become a part of the Great Steppe situation.
 
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Snow Crystal said:
You cannot migrate to areas outside of the Great Steppe situation, but you have special types of wars that will allow you to conquer areas outside of the Great Steppe, and we have decisions to make certain regions become a part of the Great Steppe situation.
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So from this I should understand that you can’t, as a state of sedentary people, allow nomads to settle in your lands? Why though? We can settle adventurers, and we used to be able to settle nomads who lost their lands in CK2. Is it at least something solvable through modding or hardcoded?
 
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Snow Crystal said:
You cannot migrate to areas outside of the Great Steppe situation, but you have special types of wars that will allow you to conquer areas outside of the Great Steppe, and we have decisions to make certain regions become a part of the Great Steppe situation.
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Thank you for all the answers! So based on that, I understand there is currently no way to simulate, say, Hungarian horde invading and settling in what is now Hungary
 
All this talk of settling. You call yourselves nomads. You shame yourselves before father sky.

In CK2 I would have just burned every holding to the ground. [Pillage holding] Settle in your lands? What lands?
 
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Al-Khalidi said:
Thank you for all the answers! So based on that, I understand there is currently no way to simulate, say, Hungarian horde invading and settling in what is now Hungary
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@Snow Crystal can probably correct me but I think I remember in the live stream or one of the dev diary of the Hungarians are having stuff to reflect their migration. They already have a CB and event chain but not sure if there will be changes to it or not.
 
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@Snow Crystal is there any mechanic to simulate nomads settle-ing non-steppe regions and founding kingdoms? Like the Magyars, Bolghars, Turks and Avars historically did? Will it happen organically during a playthrough?/does the AI have any motivation to do so?

I'm sorry if this was explained in a dev diary and i missed it.
 
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All this talk of settling. You call yourselves nomads. You shame yourselves before father sky.

In CK2 I would have just burned every holding to the ground. [Pillage holding] Settle in your lands? What lands?
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Settling means more population which means more enemies to crush and see driven before you and more of their women to hear the lamentation of.
 
@Snow Crystal Do new parts of the Great Steppe have to connected to its core-part? E.g.: Could I migrate through the Causasus into the Anatolian Plateau and make it part of the Great Steppe? Or would I have connected these two areas before by transforming the corridor I'd like to migrate through as well into a part of the Great Steppe?
 
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