new MP game, evnings(GMT +1)

[sinistral]

ICQ:15539627

Rules:
AI difficulty to Very hard
Aggression to Furious
Free choice of dyansty from Germany (No higher than duke)
Try to keep up a high level of roleplaying
Avoiding to get this game into a conquering frenzy
Avoiding to use the armycreating exploit when conquering provinces.(you are not allowed to rasie the troops for 0ne year after the capture.)
No more than 2 pagan provinces annexed / 5 year
After declaring peace with a heathen country you are not allowed to declare war again for 5 years.
No more than 1 marriage proposal at a time(to avoid multiple wife bug)
Bohemia is not allowed to declare Kingdom of Bohemia until 1150


Info:
First playtime: Tomorrow(20:00 till 23:00 Thurday ECDST)
Host: Krispin (If anyone got a good connection and computer we could/should change, please let me know)

Players:
Sinistral, playing: Duchy of Upper Lorraine
Lahatiel, playing: ?
Väinö I, playing: Piemonte
FrEDa, playing: Mantua
Krispin, playing: Brandenburg
Peder P, playing: Saxony
xpajt02, playing: Bohemia

Questions:
What if I'm gameover?
-If gameover you are allowed to choice and free duke in HRE thats not in the line of succession of a player. If thats not possible you may choose from (in order) France, Scandinavia, British Isles.

 

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Count me in.

How should we play? One king (or no king?) and the rest is vassals or everybody grabs a dynasty of their choice?

 

[sinistral]

Anyone know if you are able to remove your own posts, since now I got this message twice?

 

[sinistral]

I would say that everyone should choose whatever dynasty they want to play, but one option would be to play as different dukes/counts in a kingdom and fight for the crown. But since this game is my first in MP perhaps that would be to complicated.
One other option that perhaps could be used is to make the game sort of a team fight, if we got 4 players we could play with 2 in each kingdom and then let the game begin, that would give the game both a fight for the crown with the other player in the kingdom and also more or less force them to work together if the other two players do that.

But for a first game to try things out perhaps we should let everybody just choose the dynasty they like, just to learn how to play MP. Like most other paradox games I guess that in MP it calls for a pretty differnt style of play then SP. But I think that we should decide this together so if you or anybody else wants to play this game in a different way just say so

 

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I'm game. This will be my first Paradox MP experience as well.

Kingdom of Croatia will be my pick.

 

[FrEDa]

If I remember this on Thursday I'd like to join. Haven't tried CK MP yet though.. nor I suspect many of you either. I'll play whatever is left when you all decide..

If someone can mess me a private mess on thursday I'd be grateful, just in case I forget.. to much NHL in my head..

/F

 

[unmerged(15688)]

Thursday sounds good

I can play 19:00 CET tommorrow

perhaps we should really all be in the same general geographical area and id think Dukes would be a better starting point than kingdoms....
HRE is nice and central ... or england/ france.. or scandivavia.. or hmmm... but then we dont all have to be the same rank and croatia is hardly a huge kingdom...

 

[Peder P]

I'd like to join in as well, preferably playing Denmark.

 

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I can play 19:00 CET tommorrow

perhaps we should really all be in the same general geographical area and id think Dukes would be a better starting point than kingdoms....
HRE is nice and central ... or england/ france.. or scandivavia.. or hmmm... but then we dont all have to be the same rank and croatia is hardly a huge kingdom...

So the starting time is now one hour later? Does that suit for everyone?

Playing Croatia isn't really any requirement for me. It would actually be intresting to play within same realm. Byzantium and HRE as the biggest and the most powerful ones would probably be the best prospects.

As a matter of fact I had an idea... John Poole suggested in other thread an MP game where every player strives to become the Basileus. I propose the opposite:

As it stands right now Byzantium likes to fall apart every now and then - at least half of the vassals have always broken away by 1100 in my games. I propose a co-operative game where players will try to ensure that the Empire does not fall apart and that the Ducas family will rule now and forever. The emporor himself would be played by the AI.

Anyone up for this kind of game? A co-coperative game would probably be better for a first game, as there would be less direct competition among players.

(Edit) If we somehow do decide to go with this, I'll pick Principality of Peloponnesos.

 

[FrEDa]

Seemes were all CET (Wäinö??) so should work fine (CET = GMT+1.. or rather GMT+2 since we're on daylight-saving-time (summertime))..

/F

 

[unmerged(15688)]

hmm...

20:00 CET would really suit me better but i could start at 19:00 if everyone else insists....
Dunno bout Byzantine... no pope, no crusades and should anyone become king of somewhere the empire is automatically reduced.
Still intersting idea.. willing to give it a go...
Game rules no title higher than Duke may be taken...?

 

[unmerged(15623)]

Seemes were all CET (Wäinö??) so should work fine (CET = GMT+1.. or rather GMT+2 since we're on daylight-saving-time (summertime))..

/F

I'm CET +1.

 

[Peder P]

I'm CET as well. CET 20:00 is also better for me. I'd also prefer something other than Byzantium - preferably something Catholic.

 

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of course I mean

19:00 or 20:00 Central european Daylight Saving time to clarify....

 

[unmerged(15623)]

Dunno bout Byzantine... no pope, no crusades and should anyone become king of somewhere the empire is automatically reduced.

Blah... Byzantine existance is nothing but a huge crusade against the heathens. And the pope is still there, you just don't have to listen him.

Game rules no title higher than Duke may be taken...?

Naturally, we can't be loyal vassals if we somehow start to challange the superiority of the Baileus.

 

[unmerged(15688)]

ok can people all make

20:00 till 23:00 Thurday ECDST?

 

[unmerged(15623)]

20:00 till 23:00 Thurday ECDST?

Sure.

 

[sinistral]

We must decide something now. A discussion on this forum is not an option if we are to play tomorrow since it takes way to long time.
We got 2 options:
1) We do this discussion on ICQ, its way faster and there we could get some democratic results.
2) I give you the basic condition and you take it or leave it.

I would want to go with option 1 but I guess that not all of you have ICQ? Those of you with ICQ please add me: 15539627

Since I actually hate to be some kind of dictator(if we exclude when playing Hoi )I have a hard time to dictate the basic conditions on my own but something like this should satisfy most of you:
* No starting higher than Duke
* Try to keep up a high level of roleplaying
* Avoiding to get this game into a conquering frenzy
* Avoiding to use the armycreating exploit when conquering provinces.
Other than this feel free to play whoever you want but use your own good sense of honour to make this game a fun game. This game is not about winning or loosing it's having a good time.

There is not anything that stops you from choosing to play in the same kingdom if you like. As long as everybody who wants to play tomorrow have made his choice about who to play I'm happy

If this game works out in a good way I would really like to play a more complicated game with teams and goals or something like that but as I said above there is just not enough time to decide how that game would look if we are go for a game tomorrow(if we cannot use ICQ and a majority is available to discuss)

 

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Think we should

1. Set AI difficulty to Very hard, aggression to furious ( first patch its a wimp)
2. Restrict Starting area choice to one of
Germany
Byzantine
France
Or pehaps two adjacent countries... if we dont play in roughly the same area there wont be any player interaction and we might as well play solo.
Who ever hosts should use the backup utility ( presuming autosave works in MP)
as the damn thing will crash... have good DSL link can host and run autosave unless someone else wants to host.
in anycase sinistral be the dictator otherwise this will take forever to organise... alothough Ill be sitting at work tomorrow with nothing to do and could and likely will be on the forum all day

No ICQ behind a firewall sorry.

 

[unmerged(15623)]

The rules currently displayed in the first post are fine by me.

I assume you mean HRE with Germany and not the exact geographical area.

If that's case, I'll choose county of Piemonte.