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KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
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Introductions:
Hello all, as I mentioned in the initial thread, I am new to MP and trying to put some players together for a weekly game. Kingdom of Heaven will aim at those who are also new to MP game, friendly, easy going.

Kingdom of Heaven will use the vanilla map and the traditional 1492 start date.

Settings:

GMs: _King_of_Pain_
Time: 11 pm GMT= 6pm NY Time(Eastern US Coast)
Sessions: 3 Hours Tuesday and Thursday
Start Date: Oct 16th 2007
Scenario: Age of Explorations
Mode: Simple Vanilla map


Rules:

1. The "No Do":
-No Edit
-No AI map trade
-No lag abuse
-No Force-burn a manufactory
-No attack an enemy fleet with pirates
-No Release one or more vassals during wartime, to hinder an enemy

2. There is a forced peace rule to prevent eternal wars:
-The total of provinces that the loser will ever have to give up is : Max 3 European province, 3 Non European provinces. That makes it 6 in total.

If you have been at war for 5 years or more with another nation
- and that nations sends you a stab hitting peace offer
- and you are at stab -3
- and the peace offer is based upon a war score of -99 for you,
then you must accept the stab hit peace offer.
Note: it is recommended that you pause the game and inform your opponent that you are about to force him to a peace this way, then he can check the current WS.

3. Vassalship between humans.
If you are vassalised by another human
a) you must stay as a vassal at least 20 years (the vassaliser may cancel the vasssalship any time he wants)
b) you cannot enter any other alliance than that of your master
c) you must accept a proposal of alliance/TA/MA from your Master
d) you cannot start a war or join a war without consent from your Master
e) apart from that you may do anything you want

Anyway, besides all the above, let's try to keep it real : fair play; friendly, powergaming so common in most games, most importantly NO TEAMING UP ON 1 single player.


Nations:
France: Mungojerrie (ICQ: ?)
Spain: LSSpam (ICQ: 369204992)
England: _King_of_Pain_(488290031)
Austria: Mrlifford
Ottoman: nobodyreal (ICQ: 442010476)
Sweeden: Aleksidze (ICQ: 216-235-169)
Portugal: Duque Alesandro (ICQ: 410790843)
Russia:
 
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NO TEAMING UP ON 1 single player.

Uhu, that makes the game unfair, for, say, Portugal. These bastards are never going to get much MP to do anything of big importance.
 
Uhu, that makes the game unfair, for, say, Portugal. These bastards are never going to get much MP to do anything of big importance.

It's not entirely true. It can increase its MP through policy slide, colonies expansion and so on. Plus, It can join in a war where 2 alliances at war. Each alliance must have more than 2 members.

Bottom line, no fustration, no teaming up is needed in this friendly, relaxing oriented game. Fair play, good sport is a must. Otherwise, people will end up leaving the game half way.
 
Aleksidze said:
Well, I'm up for it.

Are we using vanilla map? I kind of like more Kasperus map with it's 1492 start scenario.

You are in, please make top 3 choices of nations. You are a General, I hope you are not a war lover b/c this game is not a war power gaming one:)

Please also add my ICQ.
 
My choices:

Sweden
Portugal
Russia

Don't worry, I suxxor at war. I've been pwned by most of the players on these forums.
 
_King_of_Pain_ said:
It's not entirely true. It can increase its MP through policy slide, colonies expansion and so on. Plus, It can join in a war where 2 alliances at war. Each alliance must have more than 2 members.

Bottom line, no fustration, no teaming up is needed in this friendly, relaxing oriented game. Fair play, good sport is a must. Otherwise, people will end up leaving the game half way.

Colonies doesn't affect manpower, they can add grain and income which ups the support limit, but not much else.

It should rather be a an unwritten rule, as sometimes, teaming up is neccesary, I remember a game with France, where I in the beginning steamrolled Spain with LT9+Foix, Austria teamed up with Spain on me, but I still soundly defeated both.
 
In vanila i believe Portugal has little more then 10 MP - sliders cant do much to affect such a small pool either.
 
Two against one should be allowed, or else, how will Austria defend the lowlands against France w/out Spain's help? Or how will Portugal defend it's colonies and overseas CoT's against other colonial powers?

2 vs 1 good
more than 2 vs 1 bad
 
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-No teaming up on 1 sigle player
-No Alliance between human during peace.

I think those should probably be scrapped, especially since it'll damage the diplomacy component. I've never played MP before so maybe i'm off base on this but it seems to me the "max 3 provinces lost" rule minimizes the effect of teaming up anyways. I think with some common game curtouesy we should be fine.
 
LSSpam said:
-No teaming up on 1 sigle player
-No Alliance between human during peace.

I think those should probably be scrapped, especially since it'll damage the diplomacy component. I've never played MP before so maybe i'm off base on this but it seems to me the "max 3 provinces lost" rule minimizes the effect of teaming up anyways. I think with some common game curtouesy we should be fine.

You pointed out a good point there. Indeed, the Max 6 ( 3 European, 3 Colnies) that a single nation can ever lose in war will minimize the teaming up. However, imagine if Spain, France, Austria join in an alliance, Abh, the whole continent will be gone.

Anyway, i guess we can only expect fair play, reasonable war from player. Good Sport is most important here.

PS: LSSpam, what is your ICQ please?
 
Hello!

If an earlier start (at least an hour, but the more the better) would be acceptable for the rest of you, I'd like to join. I am new to multiplayer, but played some sp campaigns. Also, I support the idea of trying out the Kasparus mod. My choices are: (England), Ottomans, Russia, France.
 
Hi, thanks for joining in. wonder the other 2 players ok with starting this game 1 hr ealier which is 11:00 pm GMT = 6 pm NY time. for me, i am ok with it. You need to down load ICQ.
 
Aleksidze said:
Yeah I'm fine with moving the start time one hour earlier.

Hey Guys... Took me awhile to find the new forum location :eek:

While I won't be able to play two nights a week (The Wife would not be amused) I would be able to be a reliable sub for one of the nights. Either Tuesday or Thursday, as long as I have some notice beforehand, works for me.
 
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