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Damn, i was looking forward to play as Sweden so i could eat Alek for breakfast.
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:p

come on, we will bitch slap him around, you will enjoy just watching.

As Alek said, that didnt work very well in the past - despite being ganged by 7 players in Last Huzzah i still managed to emerge the strongest power little more then 10 years after the peace (which made me loose all of france).

If Alek changes his mind (very unlikely) then feel free to PM me. If not, then too bad, i supose. Good luck with your game either way. ;)
 
BurningEGO said:
As Alek said, that didnt work very well in the past - despite being ganged by 7 players in Last Huzzah i still managed to emerge the strongest power little more then 10 years after the peace (which made me loose all of france).

If Alek changes his mind (very unlikely) then feel free to PM me. If not, then too bad, i supose. Good luck with your game either way. ;)

why? what do you do, cheat? eu is not unreal tournament, skill cant help you if your army is much smaller...
 
if Spain is lacking a perm, i could take it, since i feel it needs a player more than Sweden.

If i do remain in SWE, however, i might require some edits done to the country to compensate for it being AIed the first session (it was, wasnt it?), granted that its ok with all the players.

Fnuco.
 
Fnuco said:
if Spain is lacking a perm, i could take it, since i feel it needs a player more than Sweden.

If i do remain in SWE, however, i might require some edits done to the country to compensate for it being AIed the first session (it was, wasnt it?), granted that its ok with all the players.

Fnuco.


Yeah, it was AI'd. This is understandable. Spain is off to such a good start, I believe it could have one session with AI and still remain very powerful. I for one, would much rather see a player in Sweden for next session. I'm sure by next session we could find a Perm-Spain, and one session with Spain on AIed will definitely not break the country, - monthly income of Spain was about 100.4, twice as much as every other country!
 
grabah said:
why? what do you do, cheat? eu is not unreal tournament, skill cant help you if your army is much smaller...

First of, Skills, can help you. They can make the diference from defeat and victory. Big time.

Army sizes sometimes mean little. Of course if you have a Russia with 2000 manpower and a Venice with little more then 200, then Venice is pretty much dead (smiles at Tonio :) ).

I do not cheat, but modesty apart, i do know how to wage a war on my own. I am a modest economist, but not something great as Tonio-Daniel-Drake. My greatest asset is Patience, and Greed. Greed can destroy men, but if you are patient and if you know when - and where - to strike to make the most damage upon your foes, then, you will manage to defeat most of your enemies.

In that game i spoke about (Last Huzzah), patience was what made me very strong. I lost a war - big time. But i waited. Not so long afterwards both of our best friends, Joohoo and Bob (OE-Persia) decided to attack Russia (Sid). By doing so they had just dug their own grave - they isolated, and offered me Sweden in a golden plate (since Russia was busy with them no one could come to Sweden's aid).
 
how about these edits for sweden:

LT 9
NT 7
vassalage with Denmark broken
+800 ducats to treasury
2 dp clicks: +1 centra , +1 inno

navy is only 15 warships and 5 transports, i think adding some galleys should be appropriate. maybe 30-35.

awaiting GM decision.
 
Fnuco said:
how about these edits for sweden:

LT 9
NT 7
vassalage with Denmark broken
+800 ducats to treasury
2 dp clicks: +1 centra , +1 inno

navy is only 15 warships and 5 transports, i think adding some galleys should be appropriate. maybe 30-35.

awaiting GM decision.
:eek:

Remember that we're playing with the default vanilla scen, the dp clicks and money seems fine, the broken vassalization with DEN is good too, but techs and galleys... IMHO are not neccesary.

Let's see what the GM thinks.
 
I agree. Tech-wise Sweden should not be more advanced than England at this point, so somewhere around 6/5/2/2. The ducats are just about right for taxes and a few juicy peace deals, not sure about the additional 350 for galleys, though.

In any case, I would not hold my breath on _King_of_Pain_ editing things in for Sweden. He already said that he wants the game run without any edits...
 
nobodyreal said:
Yeah, it was AI'd. This is understandable. Spain is off to such a good start, I believe it could have one session with AI and still remain very powerful. I for one, would much rather see a player in Sweden for next session. I'm sure by next session we could find a Perm-Spain, and one session with Spain on AIed will definitely not break the country, - monthly income of Spain was about 100.4, twice as much as every other country!

Spain has a higher income, because it has some advantages early on. The price will be paid later.
If Spain is AI-ed now it will be in very bad shape. It really needs to do a lot in the first few sessions to be able to compete later on, when its advantages are gone and it gets all kind of bad events.
 
when its advantages are gone and it gets all kind of bad events.

And might i add, Bad leaders, and Bad monarchs, specially when France and England got extremely good ones.
 
BurningEGO said:
And might i add, Bad leaders, and Bad monarchs, specially when France and England got extremely good ones.

100% agree with EGO and Mioz. Spain needs a perm or at least a sub, and needs them badly.

This spain is not overpowered. It's very normal for Spain in the beginning to be far richer and more powerful than the others.
 
Any news about my edit request?

how much of it is approved? will it be edited? who will edit it?

We are getting pretty close to game time.
 
Fnuco said:
how about these edits for sweden:

LT 9
NT 7
vassalage with Denmark broken
+800 ducats to treasury
2 dp clicks: +1 centra , +1 inno

navy is only 15 warships and 5 transports, i think adding some galleys should be appropriate. maybe 30-35.

awaiting GM decision.
vassalage with Denmark broken
LT: Same as Denmark 6
NT: Same as Denmark 6
Treasure : + 300
2 dp click: +1 centra; +1 inno


Alek or whoever knows how to edit, please help me with this. Game is on tonight. please be there early guys.
thx
 
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