Any advice for me playing as Maelys? I got roflstomped the first time I tried with him.
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I believe that was changed in the last patch. Dragons will still occasionally spawn in asshai but it's a much more rare event now iirc.
How about actual military strategies? :happy:
I was thinking maybe I could just wait for the Iron Throne armies to come at me one at a time, though Maelys' one holding has a very low supply limit.
I wonder if that's the only strategy you can really use in the Greyjoy Rebellion scenario as well.
I was thinking maybe I could just wait for the Iron Throne armies to come at me one at a time, though Maelys' one holding has a very low supply limit.
I wonder if that's the only strategy you can really use in the Greyjoy Rebellion scenario as well.
Yeah, you want them to come to you at either the Stepstones or the Disputed Lands so that you can reinforce quickly if needed. Hopefully you can capture Egg in the battle and end the war that way.
Try and tie up the fighting long enough for the Reynes to win their rebellion and hopefully they will side with you and obviously also try and get some of the neutral lords like the Tyrells or the Martells to side with you as well.
Assassination plots on the Targs. If you can eliminate Egg and Duncan the Small, the remaining potential Targ kings are not nearly as effective leaders.
Those are some of the general approaches I usually take when I play Maelys, but it's definitely not easy. But yeah, stepping foot on Westeros without suring up support or at least dealing with some of their armies on your own lands is suicide.
Try and tie up the fighting long enough for the Reynes to win their rebellion and hopefully they will side with you and obviously also try and get some of the neutral lords like the Tyrells or the Martells to side with you as well.
Assassination plots on the Targs. If you can eliminate Egg and Duncan the Small, the remaining potential Targ kings are not nearly as effective leaders.
Those are some of the general approaches I usually take when I play Maelys, but it's definitely not easy. But yeah, stepping foot on Westeros without suring up support or at least dealing with some of their armies on your own lands is suicide.
The Tyrells sided with me and I linked up with their army near KL but it wasn't even close to enough.
I'll try your strategies. The great thing about this mod is the little challenges like this that you can do.
The War of the Ninepenny Kings wasn't even a significant moment in Egg's reign. The Summerhall incident gets mentioned a lot more.
The Dance of the Dragons isn't mentioned that much in the books but it was obviously the most significant event in post-conquest Westeros other than the conquest.
I mean even in the side lore. The Dance had a book to itself, and in the side lore, anyone who mentioned the Dance do so with the dread you'll see people have when they talk about WWII.
The destruction of the male Blackfyre line, the first major intercontinental war since the Bleeding Years, the birth of the Stark/Tully/Arryn/Baratheon mega alliance, the beginning of the reputations of the Blackfish and Barristan the Bold and the rise of House Baelish. How can you say this was an insignificant moment when so much of what is going on in the books now ties back directly to it?
Also, the only post-conquest wars in the Targaryen era are the Dance, the conquest of Dorne, Blackfyre, and Ninepenny Kings so of course it is significant (not including intra-regional conflicts like the Reynes of Castamere of course but even those were probably limited because of "the king's peace").
That we know of.
Also, the Conquest of Dorne seems to have lasted on-and-off for generations (the Conqueror's initial attempt failed, but we know that Rhaenys and Meraxes died in a later Dornish campaign, and Aegon IV is mentioned as having made some undescribed attempt involving wooden dragons). And of course, there were multiple Blackfyre Rebellions (we know the details of 2, and it's possible that the Ninepenny Kings counts as one, but we know there were an uncertain additional number). Plus, the Faith Militant Rebellion (that even has its own bookmark in-game). Daemon Targaryen (Rhaenyra's husband) was involved in some conflict in the Stepstones before the Dance, but we don't know in what capacity. And of course, the "Targaryen era" was ended by Robert's Rebellion.
So it seems that there were quite a few Targaryen-era wars (and it seems reasonable to assume that there were more that we don't have details of). The Ninepenny Kings is significant because it serves as the backdrop for the war, as the elder generation (Rickard Stark's generation) made its name there.
Don't forget The Young Dragon's disastrous occupation of Dorne.
The Blackfyre rebellions were the most serious for the first generation. Even after the Golden Company was subsequently formed, a few characters think of them as a joke. Summerhall caused a distortion in the succession, which goes into alternate history territory.
The Blackfyre rebellions were the most serious for the first generation. Even after the Golden Company was subsequently formed, a few characters think of them as a joke. Summerhall caused a distortion in the succession, which goes into alternate history territory.
I didn't count the Stepstones because that seemed like a minor, localized conflict on par with castamere, the defiance of duskendale, or the Skagosi Rebellion. I think it's safe to assume that there weren't anymore kingdom-wide wars or they would have been mentioned, even in an off-hand manner. 4 large wars (counting the whole invasion of Dorne as one long war of occupation like Afganistan or something like that) in about 280 years is actually quite low if you compare it to the real-life Medieval period or even just go across the waters to Essos where it seems like the cities fight each other every few years.
So my point was that since Ninepenny King was one of the few kingdom-wide wars it obviously was very significant. And the history of the Golden Company is obviously relevant to the point of the story we are at right now.
You might be able to count the Faith militant as a fifth major war but it's unclear if there were even any pitched battles.
And yezanquan I believe you are right in regards to the Blackfyre Rebellions. In the Mystery Knight that could hardly even be called a rebellion. The major damage seems to be the raids by the Iron Islands that Bloodraven strategically chose to ignore.
That fiasco in the Mystery Knight doesn't count as a Blackfyre Rebellion. But we do know that Bittersteel and the Golden Company invade Westeros at least twice before he dies, because the Yronwoods rode with him in 3 of Rebellions.
Since Bloodraven himself admits that the only reason the royal fleet wasn't fighting Dagon Greyjoy was because of the threat of Bittersteel and Tyrosh, and we know from Victarion that the Targs eventually did step in and defeat Dagon. We can assume that one of the invasions happens at some point before Dagon is defeated.
Personally, I suspect that the second invasion was the rebellion that Maekar died fighting in.
So, the greatest threat from the Blackfyres' wasn't so much the rebellions themselves, but the opportunity it gave the Iron Isles to do their stuff. Enemy of enemy is my friend, indeed.
Of course, the original rebellion was very serious as quite a number of lords fell in behind Daemon himself, due to Daeron II's bookish nature and the "Dornish influence" stuff.
Of course, the original rebellion was very serious as quite a number of lords fell in behind Daemon himself, due to Daeron II's bookish nature and the "Dornish influence" stuff.
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