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I tried to kill a dragon as a 20 martial brilliant commander formidable fighter guy and every time i try he dies (keep reloading to see if i could do it). What are my chances of killing the dragon with this kind of character
 
I think they changed it so that only targaryians can tame them, killing no clue. I've tried to tame a dragon 20 times, with dragon pit and out of those 20 times I have 0 success. Sooo it looks like right now if you don't want to use console don't get/hatch a dragon egg.

Edit: as for killing them....well I killed one with 13 martial 0 fighter, but when I tried with one that was trained fighter 30 he died..alot.
 
It isn't impossible. I'll look into the files latter to get the raw data, but once I had a random northman tame a dragon. It was quite a war when his liege revolted. Thankfully I had vassals with dragons at the time, or it would have been bad.
 
Currently, the odds of taming a dragon without any bonuses are 1 against 100.
The bonuses are :

Valyrian path:
Being a targaryan: *2.5 (so 2.5 against 100 without any additional modifiers)
Being of the valyrian culture group: *3
Being high valyrian: *30 (*10 for high valyrian, and *3 for valyrian culture group)
Being of the valyrian religion: *5
Being an abomination of incest: *5
Being a grandchild of incest: *2.5
Being Dany: *5

So, a random west valyrian, valyrian religion, non child of incest targaryan would have 37.5 (2.5*3*5) agains 100 chances of taming a dragon; And a west valyrian one 375 against 100

R'hllor Path:
Being a chosen of rhllor: *10
Being favored by rhllor: *1.5
Having the rhllor religion: *1.5

Intel bonuses:
You can collect intel regarding dragons, these bonuses add up to about *94
Note: You should at least get the citadel one, *3 if you get it, *0.33 if you dont

Demon child: you get a *20 modifier as a demon child

Bonuses available to all:
Authoritative: *2
Strong: *2
Brave: *2
Genius: *3
Quick: *1.5
Got the dragon pits: *5
You inherit the dragon: *10
Somebody in your family has a tamed dragon: *5

Finally, some modifiers that applies to the "do not tame" side :
You do not get the citadel intel: *3 (so if you had a 250 against 100 chance of taming the dragon, it becomes 250 against 300)
Weak: *2
Craven: *2
Imbecile: *3
Slow: *1.5
The dragon is a wild dragon: *1.5

Basically, being a "targaryan" gives you a lot of bonuses, but you can still hatch and tame a dragon a a northman.
 
Sure the bonuses multiply? I thought event chance bonuses in Clausewitz games were always additive, not multiplicative, i.e., base_chance * (mod1 + mod2 + mod3) instead of base_chance * (mod1 * mod2 * mod3)
 
Well, we know that the odds of taming a dragon with Dany are in your favor.

If the bonuses were additive, these odds would be much worse (she does not have the citadel intel, so the "do not tame" factor goes up to 300, she has no additional intel, no family members, her dragons weren't inherited ....)
At first glance that gives us about 20 to 300 with additive bonuses and 550 to 300 with multiplicative bonuses.

Unfortunately, i cannot be certain, but it seems to me that the bonus multiply, otherwise it would be almost impossible to get a sufficient bonus, lets not forget that the base chance is 1 against 100.
 
To get the intel, you need to have an egg, and NOT a dragon

Dragonpit intel:You are in king's landing (and the dragonpit has been built)
Dragonstone intel: You are in dragonstone
Citadel intel: you are in oldtown
Field of fire intel: you are in hammerhal
Harrenhall intel: you are in harrenhal
Summerhall intel: you are in summerhal (and summerhal has been destroyed/built)
Dragon egg intel: you have an egg, happens after about 8 years
Smoking sea intel: you are in the smoking sea
Old ghis intel: you are in Old ghis
Volantis intel: you are in Volantis
 
To get the intel, you need to have an egg, and NOT a dragon

Dragonpit intel:You are in king's landing (and the dragonpit has been built)
Dragonstone intel: You are in dragonstone
Citadel intel: you are in oldtown
Field of fire intel: you are in hammerhal
Harrenhall intel: you are in harrenhal
Summerhall intel: you are in summerhal (and summerhal has been destroyed/built)
Dragon egg intel: you have an egg, happens after about 8 years
Smoking sea intel: you are in the smoking sea
Old ghis intel: you are in Old ghis
Volantis intel: you are in Volantis

Maybe the destroyed Rhoynar capital could be added as a place to get the intel?
 
Velaryon dynasty should probably get a bonus, so if the Blacks win the war, their kids can actually stay as dragon riders. Besides, they seem to have regularly intermarried with the Targyarens.