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binTravkin said:
This is looking dirtier with each moment.
Snagging one province could be lived with, but if player snags 2 provinces whereas he himself only got 1 sieged, is unallowable.

And don't make a fool out of yourself Sterk - I have yet to see a player who does not know which siege is gonna be his and which not.
You're good player and noone believes if you say you don't know which of the provinces was actually besieged by you and which of the sieges had one of your characters as siege leader.

Leto should be having a mention in his log about Jarkko taking his provinces.
If he hasn't, Jarrko should send his log so we can see haven't he modified it and if indeed those 3 lines are true..:mad:

The problem is not so much in count of provinces or the power they yield.
The problem is in gameplay.
We all know, all games have bugs and exploits, which by their nature are unrealistic.
We all are here to play out or countries, evolve them into empires, basically - have some fun.
If someone nearby is playing not by the same rules, the fun is ruined.

That is IT. I am going to state this once and for all. I had taken AT LEAST Leptis Magna and Syrte (I stole the Leptis Magna siege with one of my counts and Syrte with my duke) and perhaps even Benghazi. No matter what Jarkko says, I had AT LEAST two (2) of the three (3) provinces that I took. That is a fact, it is undeniable and I don't care what supposed "logs" Jarkko can fabricate, I controlled Leptis Magna and Syrte. I do not truly know whether I controlled Benghazi or not. Until Jarkko said I had I was pretty sure that I had not controlled it, but I suppose only true logs can verify that. Don't call me a fool when Jarkko also claimed to have made a mistake when talking about who controlled what.

Furthermore, I have proposed a rule to fix this. There was no rule about this and I acted very quickly because the situation required me to. I had no guarantee that Jarkko would not have taken all the provinces for himself (he may very well have seen himself as the rightful owner of all of them since I stole the sieges). I believe I acted fully within the rules of the game as 1) there was no rule concerning such a situation 2) I was acting to protect my provinces (Jarkko has shown that he thinks he controlled at least 3, maybe all 4 of the provinces so he might have taken them in peace, yes perhaps I should have only taken my 2, but I was not aware of what I controlled) and 3) I had no time to think and acted quickly to ensure that I would not be outmanuevered.

I'd like to bring up one more thing: Jarkko is being very inconsistent with his accusations. First it is that I paused before making peace, and now he is saying that I stole provinces from him (but is also being inconsistent about which provinces we each controlled as well as, to my knowledge, lying about them). I will not simply stand by while he smears my name in this community and I feel I deserve at least to have these supposed charges against me clarified so that I may adequately defend myself.

Once again, Jarkko, please stop the name-calling. At this moment I won't respond to any of your posts because you are, by your own choice, banned and therefore cannot defend your statements.
 
Tch. Siege-stealing isn't very nice, granted, but such a tantrum! Anyway, Sterk, what are you going to do about your AI annexing Bohemia? Trust me on this, such an act has not made your nation popular among your neighbours. Major warfare coming your way unless you release the place quickly-like.
 
Errr. I think you got the wrong thread. Sterk is the Duchy of Sicily, and so far he hasn't expanded outside of Italy/North Africa.
 
Yes, I know. Sorry. I was referring to the Great Game. He isn't responding in that thread. :)

To be slightly more on-topic, are there any good duchies still open? I have been considering joining this game for a while.
 
Really quickly, I just realized, I definitely did not control Benghazi when I made peace, I now remember that, after I had made peace, I still saw Benghazi as occupied by Tunis, meaning he had occupied it before the peace.
 
Aye, we do need someone up in the north, I feel all alone out there :( . Flamey is still missing over in Volga (that's his realm IIRC); British Isles are open save for Cyrus' friend up in Atholl, but he has yet to attend a session.
 
My friends not going to make it I have given him plenty of warning and asked him to tell me truthfully if he wanted to play and he said he did but if he cant make a session when I tell him ahead of time to be ready then his spot should be given to someone who can be here. And we have alot of room now.
 
You can if you want, I wouldn't mind getting my post count up. You all can start by hailing the first player King. ;)
 
So sterk, whats latin for "Diplomacy Thread" ? :D
 
Hmm...

"Linea Diplomati" is literally "Thread of Diplomacy", but I think it would be better to have it as "Album Diplomati" meaning "List of Diplomacy". That is if you were serious about it ;).
 
LordLeto said:
You can if you want, I wouldn't mind getting my post count up. You all can start by hailing the first player King. ;)

Why Leto, you read my mind. I was just thinking to myself yesterday that when we do eventually start a diplomacy thread I would send a delegation to congratulate you on your coronation as King of Achaea (or whatever it was you are king of now). :D
 
If you cant get it from leto theres always the old on in the first post. Just imagine everyone about 5-6 countys larger in the direction of there kingdom.
 
Cyrus Was Great said:
If you cant get it from leto theres always the old on in the first post. Just imagine everyone about 5-6 countys larger in the direction of there kingdom.
But I want to see which Duchy would be good to choose. I would probably go with Austria if this is okay and the AI hasn't lost land with them. I think DoS needs some Austrian oppisition. :D
 
I think Austria was realitivly intact. They should be fine.

Still stranded in San Antonio so I won't be able to upload the save game for atleast another day, maybe longer.