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I was looking at the USA setup in 1914, and comparing it with the one in Victoria, and I noticed something. In TGW the US has 1 sub flotilla, while it has 6 in Victoria, and 3 more being built. OTOH, Germany has 3 flotillas in TGW and two in Victoria. Germany had 30 subs in August, according to uboat.net. How many did the US have? I'm guessing they actually had 6 boats, with 3 more being built, or maybe 9 completed, or something, and someone goofed in setting up the Victoria scenario, but I'm just making sure.
 
Actually, the USA had 32 submarines in service in January 1914. The problem is deciding how many of these were actually combat-worthy (and so should be depicted in the game), and how many were just experimental, training models, or basically useless.

Certainly the six A-class and three B-class shouldn't have counters IMO - they didn't even have crew accommodation on board, and were purely used for harbour defence. If anyone is really troubled by their absence from TGW, I'd suggest giving Manila (which is where they were stationed) a point of coastal fortifications.

Likewise for the five C-class, which were based at Panama.

That leaves 18 submarines from the D, E, F, G, H and K classes (imaginative names :) ) - counting these as one flotilla instead of two is possibly a little harsh. However, compared to German submarines the American ones were tiny - half the size - and carried only 66% of the number of torpedoes a German U-boat had available. So I don't feel guilty about short-changing them. :)

I can only imagine Victoria counted 5 U-boats to the flotilla instead of 10, and included even the A-type minisubs. (Which, incidentally, had to be taken to the Phillipines as cargo on board transport ships - they could never have reached there under their own steam.)
 
Ah, I see. Victoria : USA = 5 crappy boats/flotilla, GER = 15 decent boats/flotilla. Maybe I should take a trip to VIP and mention this. :)
 
Shadow Knight said:
You are quite true gzav. Feel free to delete my post (and this one too), for they do not belong in this here thread. Thanks.
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He'll delete that post ;) He got rid of mine when I simply quoted him whilst posting a smiley with a whip. :eek:

Stephen, the information on those submarines is very interesting.

Gordon Freeman, your vast collection of user names is intruiging.

By the way, I think that 22. Reserveinfanteriedivision should be moved to Hamburg province. ;)
 
I was looking at the italian OOB, and I got the feeling we should get someone that speaks italian to have a look at it. :) I think all those stacks named "numeral Corpi dell'Esercito" should actually be named "numeral Corpo dell'Esercito". And the other stacks feel a bit wrong, too.
 
Gwalcmai said:
I was looking at the italian OOB, and I got the feeling we should get someone that speaks italian to have a look at it. :) I think all those stacks named "numeral Corpi dell'Esercito" should actually be named "numeral Corpo dell'Esercito". And the other stacks feel a bit wrong, too.
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My knowledge of the Italian language extends to approximately twenty basic words, all of which have little use. As I know of no Italians who visit the forum, then we'll have to stick with someone who has a basic knowledge to point out any more mistakes. i.e. that's you. :)
 
Corpo is singular, Corpi is plural.

Actually, this site suggests that the Italian for "Army Corps" is Corpo d'Armata, not Corpo dell'Esercito. (The second term seems to mean "Branch of Service" - like the Medical Corps, Engineering Corps, etc.)
 
Germany faces a numerical disadvantage on the Western front in the Jan and Aug scenarios - the only way to overcome this is to offer them a qualitative advantage. I've made most of their western armies artillery units and a semi historical western front forms, albeit with no loss of French territory.

Incidentally this business of "artillery brigade" seems to be for gameplay only, for game balancing purposes I suppose it is up to us to decide which divisions in the OOB get artillery attachments?

Post 1200! Lt. General!
 
Hello all! I know this topic has been pretty dead for quite some time now, but perhaps one of you could help me: the White Eagle, Red Star (WERS) mod for HoI2 needs any info on the Bolshevik OOB against the Whites and the Ukrainians in the area of modern Ukraine.

Could anyone help?
Cheers
 
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