Ottoman decline in MP

[Stingray]

Can somebody tell me why the OE declines in the later parts of MP games, about the same time as Russia is accepted into play and made a powerhouse. They both have orthodox tech group, unless the OE choose the historical outcome in the decline events.

 

[unmerged(14784)]

OE have a lot of negative events from the 1500s - on.

the Conflicts with Persia and Mameluk Uprisings, for example.

Russia (from 1600 on) are on their way to becoming a global power

The turks, on the other hand, are on their way *OUT* of being a Global Power, unless the player knows what he's doing.

 

[Zagys]

Bad events, bad monarchs, bad leaders.

 

[L G]

That, and their tech group slows them down on keeping up with the others in reasearch........

 

[JohnMK]

Well I recently had great success dealing with the super bad 1615 event. -6 stab, +8 revolt risk for 4 years. I had on average six revolts per month, the first 18 months. Not unmanageable at all, I paused the game at the beginning of each month, sent an army to deal with it, then paused again at the beginning of next month. I had 15k armies strewn about my Empire every three provinces, so it was very manageable.

 

[Stingray]

Hmmm, so basically it's mostly becasue of major revolts, lacking in tech developing, and others growing stronger in the meantime then. Thanks, I can stop wondering then and try to make up for it if I ever play the OE.

 

[unmerged(2833)]

Originally posted by JohnMK
Well I recently had great success dealing with the super bad 1615 event. -6 stab, +8 revolt risk for 4 years. I had on average six revolts per month, the first 18 months. Not unmanageable at all, I paused the game at the beginning of each month, sent an army to deal with it, then paused again at the beginning of next month. I had 15k armies strewn about my Empire every three provinces, so it was very manageable.

Hah, can't beat my Shiite MGC4 Ottoman Empire first decentralization event (the same year). I got it just after civil war . At least i didn't have any war going on, although i bet Austria was eager to dow me

Many post-Suleiman OE monarchs seriously sucks, true. Although there are few decent ones.

 

[unmerged(5206)]

The Ottos get a decent DIP and ADM monarch around the time Algeria / Tunisia / Tripoli get independence. 10 years after the events they're usually part of the Empire yet again .