I had a ruler have a bastard son (speaking of which, why are there no bastard daughters?) with a woman who was already his friend. At least, that's what the event led me to believe. The woman was already his friend, and he got the "your wife is out of town" event. Why was it, then, that the bastard's ID page had only his father and not his mother, even if the mother was known (at least to the player)?
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I think there are no daughters because a ruler back then would never recognize a bastard daughter.
As for why the mother isn't shown, is probably that she is of no importance, or that people simply didn't want to acknowledge who it was.
Female bastards will not turn up like males.
I'm not sure, but I think it is possible with the 'spy master suspects' event if the girl is not of your culture and you choose you will not acknowledge her.
It is there for boys, I don't know if girls can get that event when they are of different culture.
In vanilla CK1.05 there is a bastard girl in Provance.
I'm not sure, but I think it is possible with the 'spy master suspects' event if the girl is not of your culture and you choose you will not acknowledge her.
It is there for boys, I don't know if girls can get that event when they are of different culture.
In vanilla CK1.05 there is a bastard girl in Provance.
The event you got spawns a bastard, it cannot actually create a pregnancy between the right persons.
Spawned bastards are always male and will never have two parents (usually only a father unless the event fires for a female ruler, then there's only a mother of course).
All female bastards and bastards with two parents will have gotten the trait by event later in life.
Spawned bastards are always male and will never have two parents (usually only a father unless the event fires for a female ruler, then there's only a mother of course).
All female bastards and bastards with two parents will have gotten the trait by event later in life.
Historically several did.
This is just a coding limitation.
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The game can not create female bastards, the only one you see in the game are ones that exist at the start of a scenario.
In fact any character created by an event will be a male.
In fact any character created by an event will be a male.
And the event when the spymaster is suspicous of the kid's father (different culture then father) is only for male kids?
english patriot said:
True, but only Vicky and Vicky 2 is really bad.
Yes, though I the culture of the child is not a trigger in this event at all.
Code:
character_event = { #Your spymaster advises you that there is evidence that your newborn babe could not have been sired by you.
trigger = {
condition = { type = not value = { type = age value = 2 } }
condition = { type = ruler_child }
[COLOR="Lime"] condition = { type = gender value = male }[/COLOR]
condition = { type = not value = { type = trait value = bastard } }
condition = { type = not value = { type = trait value = inbred } }
condition = { type = father
condition = { type = and
condition = { type = is_alive }
condition = { type = is_married }
condition = { type = ruler }
}
}
Are you certain? Queen Sybilla of Scotland was illegitimate daughter of king Henry I of England and it was her daddy who arranged the marriage. Henry was actually kind of busy man marrying most of his bastard daughters to his neighbours. I think that Henry had recognised them, otherwise they wouldn't appear as his daughters in contemporary sources.
I think there's game mechanic reasons rather than historical reasons behind this.
I'm not entirely sure but I think it's because ingame a female bastard is redundant. Since females don't inherit the throne anyway and the main point of the bastard trait is to prevent inheritance.
Remember that under semisalic laws inheritance is tracked through the female line as well. If you fully want to exlude a daughter's heirs from the line of succession she must be given the trait.
There was a big discussion about this (female bastards) during the 1.05 public beta for CK.
Here is the thread
In short, incorporating them would mean a lot of work for very little actual effect.
At least in earlier versions bastard trait didn't exclude decendants of a bastard from inheritance. It was before DV, but I remember case where my king died and his cousin whose father was a bastard (father had the bastard trait when he died) inherited the kingdom. These days bastards of my ruler's family usually declare themselves legitimate when I give them some territory (which is bit silly, because I might want people like Henry FitzRoy to be powerful magnates, but I never intend them on the throne), so I don't know if children of bastards could still inherit
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Children of bastards are excluded from inheritance also. In one of the earlier version of CK (1.03 or 1.04) it was still possible for children of bastards to inherit, that was a bug.
Good to hear that it's fixed. My memory works in funny ways these days, because sometimes I can remember something from CK 1.00, 1.02 etc., but can't remember how it is in latest DV beta patch.
Now the only way for bastards to inherit is by elective law. That's how I kept it "all in the family" with a Smolensk (or some Russian county) game. It got boring after a few years; your only way to gain power is to inherit, and that requires serious finagling.