Papal Controller still stealing non-priests in 1.03a

[trajan]

I became Papal Controller as the Duke of Catalonia last night (to a Croatian Pope that I had absolutely no relation to, but that's a different issue). The pope started appointing bishops from my court, and the first 3 or 4 were priests of some sort. Working great, I think, all according to the patch readme and MrT's FAQ. Then after the last priest was appointed, the Pope appointed my Grey Eminence (DIP 14) Chancellor. I didn't get any country cousins to sit around and wait to be appointed bishop as the FAQ seems to indicate, and I'm pretty sure that Grey Eminence is not a result of an ecclesiastical education. Is this a bug? BTW, I ended up F12-dieing the Pope so I lost Papal Controller. Let him suck somebody elses court dry.

 

[The_Hawk]

I had the same problem -- and was Papal Controller long enough for him to steal *every* male in my court. The last two to go were my marshals, and I know they had martial education...

 

[madogvelkor]

It's weird how this effects some people more than others. I'm often Papal Controller and rarely have a problem. In one game I was for about 30 years. That's in both 1.02 and 1.03.

 

[unmerged(2037)]

Sad news that this feature is still broken, but thinking about it I realized that I do not know why it is implemented at all.

I mean which way it benefits you having your courtier appointed bishop in another realm?

 

[Aquitaine]

I have to agree with horragoth. Even if this feature worked as designed, it would still be a 'realism' feature that has no gameplay value except to piss off the player. If you actually had some control over your new bishops when the Pope chose them -- maybe until the next Pope shows up and then appoints new Bishops...? I don't know, anything, but right now it's pretty annoying.

 

[Solmyr]

Maybe giving the player 50 piety every time one of his courtiers is appointed bishop would be good?

 

[NeilJT]

Sad news that this feature is still broken, but thinking about it I realized that I do not know why it is implemented at all.

I mean which way it benefits you having your courtier appointed bishop in another realm?

The Tinyiest benefit I can find is that if your heir is appointed to a bishopric, then when you die that land will join your realm.

 

[The_Hawk]

I think the reasoning is to make the character pay a price for being Papal Controller; the pros are that you can excommunicate people, the cons are that you lose all your ecclesiastically-educated folks (or, currently, all your males.)

 

[unmerged(21927)]

The lord giveth, The lord taketh, but why the hell does he have to take all my heirs (whom I have grand plans for) and place them in some good forsaken dumb

 

[Dignitas]

Just wanted to add my voice too. Having the same problem. Suddenly my male courtiers started inheriting far away bishoprics. The last one that went was my misguided warrior marshall.
Desperately looking for a new marshal for my court, I revoked one of my cousin's count titles, but, you guess it, he did'nt stay very long...

 

[unmerged(2456)]

The lord giveth, The lord taketh, but why the hell does he have to take all my heirs (whom I have grand plans for) and place them in some good forsaken dumb

Because he mocks you.

 

[unmerged(2037)]

I think the reasoning is to make the character pay a price for being Papal Controller; the pros are that you can excommunicate people, the cons are that you lose all your ecclesiastically-educated folks (or, currently, all your males.)

It would be strange, if it was that way. All signs indicate that it should be an advantage to name bishops. For example the Church Law selection increase the probability of Pope right to do that in row Royal supremacy - Eccl. balance - Church Supremacy.