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Cagliostro

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I was playing 1.03a as Glamorgan, later Wales, and Rome at some point was conquered by Islam.

At that point the game stopped appointing popes and papal controllers.

However, on a reload, it announced that the person with the highest piety (a duke in Scotland) was the papal controller. He had no cross by his name, and nothing else obvious occurred.

Later I had a CTD for no particular reason. These things happen. I went back to my last save, and discovered that now I had the highest piety, and was so declared Papal controller in reload.

However, I didn't have the cross. I looked at my options, though, and sure enough, I could excommunicate. I went to excommunicate my neighbor, and bam! CTD.

It seems to me that

a) there should still be a pope even if Rome is conquered;
b) The Christian AI should go nuts if Rome is conquered by Moslems or Pagans, and try to take it BACK; and
c) if for some reason there is no pope, there also shouldn't be a papal controller, and excommunicate should be greyed out as an option automatically.
 
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I think I had a similar problem. 1.03a as Hungary, about 1110 AD I had a CTD while saving the game. Always. I can't save it. When I reload the my previous (working) savegames, the first thing always happens that Sweden becomes the papal controller. I checked Rome and the province is conquered by an Italian minor (no shield, it's the demense of the minor's count).

So I checked the save files (10 megs, omigod! :) ), and I realized, that the threre are corrupted files (the CTD ones), in which the title (I'm not 100% sure about the title thing) part always end at the PISA tag (now the PISA thing is sure). The next one should PAPA, but there is file over.

Now I'm going to install 1.03b. Should it solve the problem? (Of course I wantto continue the game). Thanks in advance.
 
This also goes for 1.03b. Duchy of Apulia has taken Rome, and there is no papacy (anywhere). The papal controller gets no cross, nor any of the abilities associated with being papal controller.
 
Cagliostro said:
a) there should still be a pope even if Rome is conquered;
b) The Christian AI should go nuts if Rome is conquered by Moslems or Pagans, and try to take it BACK; and
c) if for some reason there is no pope, there also shouldn't be a papal controller, and excommunicate should be greyed out as an option automatically.

b or c would be swell, but I'd suppose a is soooooo much easier to code