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Mighty Heart said:
Lots of interesting fixes, tweaks and improvement there.

Thanks.
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I would like to echo that sentiment. Great to see to see the good work continuing - thanks!

Apologies to the dev team for bringing this up when so many have already (and not meaning to sound ungrateful for all the ongoing effort) but would there be any chance of a hint at when we might see a Save Game feature? I started a scenario last night that ended up keeping me up much later than intended :blink: - although I love the way things are coming along I just won't be playing the game as often as I would if I knew I didn't have to finish a scenario in one session.
 
claudiucojo said:
I see you did lots off changes in the database and its nice but please consider changing this in the next patch: the SM-2 missile is stepping down beginning this year and it's replaced by the more lethal SM-6 it has Mach 3.5+(probably Mach 4.0+) speed and a range of 240km and its much better kill capability against highly agile targets.

Here is the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-174_Standard_ERAM.

Also what about the SM3 ? Right now its not in the game but the US Navy is actually increasing the number of ship capable of caring the SM3, as a MACH 8(~ 9600 km/h) and a range >500 km is quite a potent weapon.

Thankx.
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actually, the SM-6 is just an SM-2 with an new seeker. it uses the same airframe, engine, and fins, only another computer and internals of the nose. also, there are no real plans to replace SM-2 entirely, or better said, SM-2 is not phased out in the favor of SM-6. SM-6 will first be equipped by non-aegis ships, as it's main power is the fact that it heightens the amount of missiles in the air possible, as it no longer uses semi-active guidance and by that can do without direction from the SPG-62.

in range and all it is the same, so IF in the future SM-2 would be phased out in favor of the SM-6, the only thing that would change would be the number in the game and the amount that could be launched and directed at the same time.

and SM-3 is just an ABM weapon, as mentioned above, so you will only need those ingame when you have ballistic missiles..... which I doubt.
 
acelanceloet said:
actually, the SM-6 is just an SM-2 with an new seeker. it uses the same airframe, engine, and fins, only another computer and internals of the nose. also, there are no real plans to replace SM-2 entirely, or better said, SM-2 is not phased out in the favor of SM-6. SM-6 will first be equipped by non-aegis ships, as it's main power is the fact that it heightens the amount of missiles in the air possible, as it no longer uses semi-active guidance and by that can do without direction from the SPG-62.

in range and all it is the same, so IF in the future SM-2 would be phased out in favor of the SM-6, the only thing that would change would be the number in the game and the amount that could be launched and directed at the same time.

and SM-3 is just an ABM weapon, as mentioned above, so you will only need those ingame when you have ballistic missiles..... which I doubt.
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There are not many non-Aegis ships left in the USN. I think even the FFG-7 will be gone by 2030. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the SM6 a 2 stage missile vs a SM2's single stage? I thought the SM6 with the boaster stage have about ~50% longer range.
 
Wiz33 said:
There are not many non-Aegis ships left in the USN. I think even the FFG-7 will be gone by 2030. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the SM6 a 2 stage missile vs a SM2's single stage? I thought the SM6 with the boaster stage have about ~50% longer range.
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it is an 2 stage missile, but so is the SM-2ER (RIM-156A) which airframe it will use.
and the SM-6 is mainly looking at the future: you can launch more missiles then the AEGIS system can guide at the same time with this, at an longer range and lower altitude then your own radars can direct..... because of this, the replacement for AEGIS could possibly work completely different. and non-aegis ships? the zumwalt will soon be in, which shows that the future is not all-aegis :p

looking into the subject again now..... to be exact, if any missile should be replaced by the SM-6 ingame, it is not the SM-2 in general but the RIM-156 SM-2ER Block IV missile. the SM-2MR (RIM-66M) is not due to replacement anytime soon, IIRC.
 
acelanceloet said:
it is an 2 stage missile, but so is the SM-2ER (RIM-156A) which airframe it will use.
and the SM-6 is mainly looking at the future: you can launch more missiles then the AEGIS system can guide at the same time with this, at an longer range and lower altitude then your own radars can direct..... because of this, the replacement for AEGIS could possibly work completely different. and non-aegis ships? the zumwalt will soon be in, which shows that the future is not all-aegis :p

looking into the subject again now..... to be exact, if any missile should be replaced by the SM-6 ingame, it is not the SM-2 in general but the RIM-156 SM-2ER Block IV missile. the SM-2MR (RIM-66M) is not due to replacement anytime soon, IIRC.
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I thought the VLS compatible SM-2 block IV were never widely deployed since most reference source for the Tico and Burke list SM-2MR as their standard loadouts. The move to SM-6 may take a while but I would think that it would be pretty universal by 2030 since the last SM-2 MR procured will be over 15 years old by then. So for this game, we can assume SM-6 in wide deployment with the extended range and better accuracy.
 
My first impressions of this patch after playing a mission.

1. Damn ships are now much harder to sink which iS GOOD. Even a frigate could defend itselflves very well. I had to use all four of my Su-35s each carrying 6 anti ship missiles to sink a frigate. That's 24 missiles to sink just a frigate. If I used just two Su-35 or 12 missiles the missiles would be all shot down before hitting the target.

2. Russian aircrafts are now much deadlier because of the patch (as expected). The effect has a big impact on gameplay. Now those Su-27SMs and Su-35s are really on par with their European and American counterpart.
 
Wiz33 said:
I thought the VLS compatible SM-2 block IV were never widely deployed since most reference source for the Tico and Burke list SM-2MR as their standard loadouts. The move to SM-6 may take a while but I would think that it would be pretty universal by 2030 since the last SM-2 MR procured will be over 15 years old by then. So for this game, we can assume SM-6 in wide deployment with the extended range and better accuracy.
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your thinking is good, the conclusion not entirely: the ER was indeed never used that much, with the MR as standard weapon and the ER for high altitude targets and similar mostly. the SM-6 will not I repeat NOT replace the SM-2 MR. SM-2 MR block IIIA and IIIB are still in production..... we will most likely see an successor around 2030, that is correct, but that will not be the SM-6 and I think it is an safe bet to keep the SM-2 MR in game up to that moment
 
acelanceloet said:
your thinking is good, the conclusion not entirely: the ER was indeed never used that much, with the MR as standard weapon and the ER for high altitude targets and similar mostly. the SM-6 will not I repeat NOT replace the SM-2 MR. SM-2 MR block IIIA and IIIB are still in production..... we will most likely see an successor around 2030, that is correct, but that will not be the SM-6 and I think it is an safe bet to keep the SM-2 MR in game up to that moment
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OK. So SM6 will be supplementing SM2 but not a replacment. In that case, I would think that all the Tico and Burke will be carrying a Mix load in the period covered by this game.
 
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- Added: Gradual decline in hit % over range for multipurpose guns.

I think all guns have at least two of three: air, surface, land. Including the CIWS (air/surface) guns.
So...


Also, the biggest advantage the sm6 has over the sm2 is the Active Radar Homing system - copied off the amraam - whereas the sm2 is semi active and requires line of sight from a fire control radar antenna to actually find its target. Which is the big reason sea skimmers came into being - to get closer to the enemy ships before the enemy could effectively shoot them down. Then again, I expect that'll make the sm-2 cheaper.
 
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acelanceloet said:
your thinking is good, the conclusion not entirely: the ER was indeed never used that much, with the MR as standard weapon and the ER for high altitude targets and similar mostly. the SM-6 will not I repeat NOT replace the SM-2 MR. SM-2 MR block IIIA and IIIB are still in production..... we will most likely see an successor around 2030, that is correct, but that will not be the SM-6 and I think it is an safe bet to keep the SM-2 MR in game up to that moment
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OK but the fact that the US NAVY is keeping the SM2 MR does not mean that we shouldn't have also the SM-6 right ? Because starting from 2011 Arleight Burke and Tico started to carry the SM6 which has a longer range than the SM2MR and better performance because of the new seeker.
 
claudiucojo said:
OK but the fact that the US NAVY is keeping the SM2 MR does not mean that we shouldn't have also the SM-6 right ? Because starting from 2011 Arleight Burke and Tico started to carry the SM6 which has a longer range than the SM2MR and better performance because of the new seeker.
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that would be correct. my only point here is that SM-6 should not replace SM-2, as is stated quite a lot around here.
 
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