It's so dang ironic that this is one "fix" CO didn't include in the patch diaries.
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Hello @co_avanya
Why did you not put a cost on landscaping? This is a huge cost in real life, both for individuals and for governmet/cities. But in game it is free. Seems unrealistic for a simulation.
I love that specialized industries has been moved to level 0, since towns usually are built upon them and not the other way around. So good on you!
Why did you not put a cost on landscaping? This is a huge cost in real life, both for individuals and for governmet/cities. But in game it is free. Seems unrealistic for a simulation.
I love that specialized industries has been moved to level 0, since towns usually are built upon them and not the other way around. So good on you!
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Just change the limit for pedestrian ramps. Even if they don't have visual indication that they are stairs (I don't think CS1 had them, it's been a while) a 35-45° angle would solve a lot of problems
At 45deg angle an overpass ramp can be built inside a 5x2m rectangle.
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Landscaping needs to be free because it's just too easy to make mistake with the current tools and it could too easily become ruinously expensive. Of course, if they fixed the zoning problems we'd waste far less money constantly fighting the game to get the city layout we want than we do now.
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Thanks for the continued hard work on everything. It is much appreciated. While I'm not sure the game is where it needs to be yet, you have it going in the right direction again. So, thank you.
I would like to request that a Make Historic option be available as a future feature. All cities, as you know, include older parts of town that don't just magically develop into 5 star housing as million dollar mansions. The majority of cities, no matter where they exist around the globe, are mostly smaller/older homes. Without this feature, we're unable to realistically build older parts of a cities. If we're looking to make Cities 2 as realistic as possible, this feels like a mandatory feature.
Thanks!
I would like to request that a Make Historic option be available as a future feature. All cities, as you know, include older parts of town that don't just magically develop into 5 star housing as million dollar mansions. The majority of cities, no matter where they exist around the globe, are mostly smaller/older homes. Without this feature, we're unable to realistically build older parts of a cities. If we're looking to make Cities 2 as realistic as possible, this feels like a mandatory feature.
Thanks!
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If you are interested in this now. There is a mod "plop the growables" that let you do this.
Hi everyone! I hope you're ready for some long patch notes because 1.1.5f1 (also known as Economy 2.0) has a lot of changes for you!
Before we get into all of those we have one important note to add for existing saves: Your city will experience a temporarily increased death rate. Since the dev diary detailing what you can expect to happen with your saves, we have made changes to when citizens die. The changes add more variety so you don’t end up with a very large amount of seniors who all die around the same time. But to prevent these large future death waves, your city will need to say goodbye to some of its existing citizens.
Additionally, we have added a Tile Upkeep cost since the dev diaries, which you will want to keep an eye on, especially if you have used Unlock All or mods to unlock all map tiles. Cities that have unlocked tiles gradually as they become available through milestones are expected to be able to afford the land they own (perhaps with some adjustments to taxes and service budgets), but if your city is still small and has unlocked most of the map, you may want to enable Unlimited Money.
For a quick overview of everything you should keep in mind when loading an existing save, check out this thread.
We also want to thank you for all the feedback and bug reports you have shared. They have been very helpful in making these improvements and fixing issues. As always, we greatly appreciate your reports, and if you have any issues following this patch, please report them here:
Cities: Skylines 2 - Bug Reports
forum.paradoxplaza.com
We look forward to hearing your experiences with the patch. You're welcome to share your thoughts in this thread, in the main forum, or in the Suggestions section of the forum. Constructive feedback is very valuable to us and we greatly appreciate the time you take to share it with us. Now, let's get to the patch notes.
Patch Notes 1.1.5f
Building Upgrade Rework
- More control over upgrades from the Selected Info Panel of City Service buildings.
- All upgrade types can be removed from the Selected Info Panel of a City Service building.
- Sub-buildings can be removed by using the bulldozer as well.
- Sub-buildings can be relocated.
- Sub-building can be turned on/off.
- Sub-buildings can be selected.
- Sub-building upgrades can now be placed freely within a radius limit from the main building.
- Updated City Service tutorial.
Economy updates
- Government subsidies for the city have been removed to make the economy more challenging and transparent.
- Taxes and Services tabs in the Economy panel now unlock at milestone 1 and the Production tab unlocks at milestone 2.
- Added “Import City Services” city policy to toggle import of city services from Outside Connections.
- Separate imported service items in the budget panel.
- Outside Connections won't send service vehicles if the policy is toggled off.
- Added imported service expenses for ambulance, hearse, fire engine, garbage, and police. The fee scales with the city's population.
- City Service changes:
- Increased chance of entering and graduating both Elementary School and High School.
- Adults can now apply to High School if they didn’t finish it (1% chance, can apply 3 times).
- Garbage accumulation accounts for students, employees, prisoners, occupants, and homeless people in the calculation.
- Balanced garbage city service upgrades.
- Buildings now pay a fixed fee for garbage collection instead of a variable amount based on garbage collected.
- Adjusted garbage accumulation values.
- Adjusted upkeep costs of most City Service Buildings.
- Wages for city service employees are paid from player money
- Increased electricity import price.
- Increased the time it takes for Ambulance and Hearse notifications to appear.
- Adjusted the Service Fee curves for efficiency and consumption.
- Adjusted water service fees (With old saves the game will force reset the value to the new default position).
- Increased the amount of workers for
- Medical Clinic
- Small Coal Power Plant
- Police Station
- Cemetery
- Fire House
- Landfill
- Demand changes:
- Residential density depends on household wealth and family size.
- Household spawns are based on average citizen happiness, homelessness, tax, available student positions, and available jobs.
- Commercial companies spawn based on household needs, reducing how often the same companies appear in the city.
- Commercial and industrial demand has been adjusted to avoid “Not enough customers” complaints for newly spawned companies.
- Taxes now have more effect on demand.
- Employment changes:
- Workers from Outside Connections no longer pay tax.
- Workers from Outside Connections are not included in population or workplace infoviews.
- Workers from Outside Connections will look for new job more frequently.
- Workplaces in Outside Connections are less desirable than workplaces in the city.
- Only citizens who don't have health problems (such as Sick or Injured) count as valid employable citizens.
- Citizens can only receive unemployment for a limited amount of time. When they run out of unemployment, they will complain about “High Rent” and move away.
- Fixed population jobs & workers amount issue.
- Households & happiness changes:
- Households without adults will now move away.
- Rich households prefer larger homes in attractive neighborhoods (higher land value, good service coverage, etc), poor households prefer cheaper houses and don’t mind services being far away.
- Household needs are calculated based on their spendable money (what’s left after paying rent), so they now spend their money more reasonably.
- Reduced the number of senior citizens moving into the city.
- Adjusted wealth happiness factor to a reasonable value.
- Low happiness affects the chance a household will move out of the city.
- Households consider the garbage fee when calculating their spendable money.
- Added curve parameter to death rate to smooth the death of senior citizens (existing cities will experience an immediate death wave)
- Production and Company changes:
- Adjusted values for:
- Resource production.
- Resource price.
- Household wages.
- Tax income.
- Resource price now has two parts, a lower one for industrial processing, and another for commercial companies’ service prices. Customers (households) pay full price, which is both parts combined.
- Changed the workforce needed per unit for resource processing to a preconfigured amount instead of automatically calculated at the start of the game.
- Companies now go bankrupt instead of looking for new locations if their current property isn’t suitable for profit.
- Changed Industrial Manufacturing space multiplier from 1 to 5 to allow more workers per grid so fewer buildings are needed.
- Adjusted office employee amount.
- Adjusted amount of work required per product to decrease city income.
- Adjusted simulated service prices.
- Improved companies to move away not just because of bankruptcy, but also because of the tax rate and workforce factors.
- Rebalanced Extractor Resource greatly reducing profitability.
- Balanced Industrial and Office companies Default Output Amount, Max Workers Per cell, Resources Initial Price, and Work needed per unit. Increased Space multiplier of Industrial and Office zones.
- Rent and Building Level changes:
- Removed the virtual landlord so building upkeep is now paid equally by all renters.
- Added new rent calculation: Rent = (LandValue + (ZoneType * Building Level)) * LotSize * SpaceMultiplier.
- Tweaked “High Rent” notifications to be based on the household’s income. Even if they currently don’t have enough money in their balance, they won’t complain and will instead spend less money on resource consumption.
- Building level is now based on whether renters can pay the upkeep fee. When they pay the full fee, the building condition increases by a constant amount, if they cannot pay it, the building condition decreases by the same amount.
- Crime rate adjustments:
- Fixed police service coverage for zoneable assets. The police station will patrol regularly to decrease the crime rate, and all zone type buildings will increase crime rate depending on the police service coverage.
- NA and EU PoliceVehicle02 Crime Reduction value changed to match the NA and EU policevehicle01 value.
- Removed crime scene pathfinding limitation of building's crime rate to avoid all criminals having the same pathfinding result to queue up to do crime.
- Added new crime factor to lower crime probability in cities with larger populations.
- Lower crime recurrence probability due to criminals needing to wait a long while to remove criminal tag.
- Increased the cost of purchasing Map Tiles.
- Added upkeep fee for new map tiles
- The 9 starting are excluded and do not have have map tile upkeep fee
- Added option to “Unlock all map tiles” (also disables achievements and the tile upkeep cost)
- Increased construction cost and upkeep costs for roads.
- Moved upkeep breakdown from Tooltip to Selected info panel.
- Reduced the amount of money the player gets back from bulldozing roads and buildings.
- Adjusted the max shopping amount of the household from 4000 to 2000.
- Adjusted Specialized Industry Unlocking to start from milestone 0.
- Fixed taxes being collected after bulldozing the entire City.
- Fixed Citizen Wealth Infoview not highlighting households with 'Wretched' wealth level.
- Fixed the wrong moving away statistic data being displayed.
- Fixed a newly spawned company complaining about a lack of workers.
- Fixed commercial zones incur massive amounts of debt for the citizens.
- Fixed refund inconsistencies when replacing roads and stops.
- Fixed high death possibility issue:
- Fire accidents now will only cause 1% death compared to the previous 50% death of an on fire medium/high density building.
- The building's destruction event will now cause 50% death compared to previous 90% death of citizens who are still in it.
- Fixed Outside Connection workers won't find a job.
- Fixed trade cost divided by zero bug.
Modding
- Updated mod publisher to use auto login from Paradox SDK.
- Updated Paradox Mods to Version 1.5.2
- Added new feature: Mod details will now show what dependencies are installed and if any are missing
- Improvement: When started, it will now try to go online again if being offline before
- Improvement: Change the close X hover effect when using a gamepad
- Improvement: Improve text on empty state when on library or playset details when offline
- Fix: Offline mode will now start with your active playset
- Fixed double back click from following creators view
- Fixed broken bumper navigation when offline and using a gamepad
- Fixed gamepad legend when offline on library or playset details
- Fix: Pressing the B button on a gamepad will now close the Sync modal
- Fixed a warning with font weights
- Fixed a warning with height not being set correctly in scrollbars
- Added support for custom units for sliders used in mod settings
- Added support for keybindings for mods:
- Mods can introduce their own input action which are integrated into the game input system.
- Added key binding field to the automatic option which allows mods to provide key rebinding for their actions.
- Added built-in conflict detection between the game bindings and mods bindings based on action usage.
- Added warning sign next to each binding which has conflicts.
- Added main menu notification if a mod has a key binding conflict.
- Added support for 3 different types of actions: press (1 button), axis (negative and positive button), vector (up, down, left, right buttons)
- Added the ability to set separate keyboard key and gamepad button for one action.
- Added the ability to use built-in and write custom processors and interactions for actions.
- Fixed issue where downloading a certain number of mods in a specific way resulted in a crash to desktop.
- Fixed a bug where SettingsUISetterAttribute could not use private methods and properties
- Fixed installing notification getting stuck when downloading a mod failed.
- Updated notification texts.
- Updated "mod loading error" dialog to show the error.
- Fixed issue with mods not loading if playset was changed using the web version or there are mod updates.
- Fixed some cases when mods are not loaded or "enabled code mods are changed" notification does not appear.
- Fixed "mod page" and "disable" buttons being visible on mod loading error message box with local mods.
- Fixed endless "mod loading..." notification if mods failed to load.
- Fixed Unity installation not being found if the game is running on a different account than the one who installed Unity
- Fixed issue where modding toolchain install/uninstall warning dialog overflows when the list of dependencies is long by making the panel scrollable
Performance
- UI performance optimizations for the economy panel.
- Other UI performance optimizations with audio bindings, rendering, cursors, and updating panels.
- Performance optimization for Chirper panel.
- Optimizations for particle effects.
- Optimizations for audio memory usage.
- Optimized placement to improve FPS when placing complex buildings or roads.
- Fixed job-finding performance issue when there were no available workplaces and no employable workers, causing endless job pathfinding queries which heavily affect the performance.
Fixes & improvements
- Unity update 2022.3.29f1
- Fixed a crash to desktop when using the quick load function while relocating and rotating a building.
- Fixed a crash to desktop after deleting Train Station with a broken Subway connection and trying to place new subway tracks.
- Fixed crash to desktop in SetupFindHomeJob
- Fixed crash to desktop caused by removed renter.
- Fixed crash to desktop when resizing oil extractor area so that some pumps get deleted
- Improved likelihood of household members traveling together as a group.
- Improved hue, saturation, and randomness values of tree leaves.
- Improved collision radius for BirchTree, PineTree, and SpruceTree to better match the visual empty space. The bushes etc. can now be propped closer to the trees.
- Improved citizens and delivery vehicles pathfinding to take building construction time and path duration into account to avoid arriving at construction sites.
- Ambulances transport some patients in emergency mode (randomized with health level).
- Lowered building fire spreading probability to other buildings.
- Changed default glass material from tinted brown to non-tinted.
- Updated EU and NA theme icons.
- Improved wealth info view color and citizen wealth state parameters.
- Fixed wealth info view color not matching household wealth, changed it from household member based wealth to household based wealth.
- Improved Airport development tree node icon.
- Adjusted XP values for low construction cost building.
- Fixed depots so trains/subway can now only drive through them by using dedicated by-pass track (the track without “No Track Connection”).
- Fixed Several Signature Buildings don't get occupied (must be rebuilt for the fix to take effect)
- Changed signature building info view color priority higher in RCIO infoviews
- Fixed Ludo Square and Cane Residences signature building bonuses to be more consistent.
- Fixed issue with some settings not getting saved.
- Fixed achievements progression on saves that have used mods not being disabled.
- Fixed specialized industry main building missing.
- Fixed Forestry and Ore Industrial Storage yard props not showing.
- Fixed farming extraction area color so it’s visible on fertile land with the info view open.
- Fixed crematorium sub-building car access when snapped to the main building. Main building or sub-building(s) need to be moved/replopped for this to take effect.
- Fixed specific situation causing taxis from Outside Connections to get stuck for a long while.
- Fixed wrong passenger count/capacity displayed for personal cars that have a trailer attached.
- Fixed driver not included in passenger count and capacity for personal vehicles.
- Fixed vehicles driving through parking facilities or transport stations without intending to use their services.
- Fixed citizens parking their cars at public transport stations without the intention to board a transport line there.
- Fixed traffic jams occurring inside Parking buildings.
- Fixed airplanes driving through the runway without landing at the airport.
- Fixed issue where fire engines are unable to react to and extinguish the additional buildings from the specialized industry areas
- Fixed Garbage Trucks collecting garbage outside their operating district if their way goes through different district.
- Fixed resource piles on spawnable storage yards not instantly updating when delivery truck unloads cargo.
- Fixed trucks keep going back and forth between commercial and industry.
- Fixed commercial companies accidentally exporting goods to other companies.
- Fixed broken pathfinding warning after rebuilding destroyed service building that has extension upgrades.
- Fixed mail getting stuck due to heavy traffic at the cargo terminal by adding a trip needed buffer amount as another cost in resource trade pathfinding.
- Added a penalty for resource pathfinding when the cargo station has more requests or sent out most of the vehicles.
- Fixed Water Tower’s viewing upgrade not providing entertainment.
- Fixed Hospitals and Clinics not refilling their pharmaceuticals storage
- Fixed cargo train terminal left and back paths not connecting to roads too
- Fixed City Policies not clearing properly and carrying over between different save game loads
- Fixed The Deep End achievement not unlocking at exactly 200000 loan
- Fixed citizens stopped finding jobs when unemployment was high
- Fixed high unemployment rate issue by adding variety to the citizen education levels when spawning
- Fixed population infoview jobs didn't match workplace info view's data
- Fixed discrepancy in workplace count by excluded the Outside Connection workplaces from population's calculation
- Fixed DateTime overflow error by reducing the max starting year for a map to 3000.
- Fixed floating prop issues with Deuclidia Apartments, Nuclear Power Plant and Technical University.
- Fixed hotel renter deserialization bug causing unknown mayhem for tourist / hotel logic.
- Fixed tourists with "Leaving the city" status not leaving the hotel.
- Fixed Parallel and grid roads misplace connected road lane.
- Fixed Roundabouts disappear when connecting roads at a certain angle.
- Fixed track slope causing tight curve warning / no connection when built a certain way.
- Fixed connection notifications with buildings over a train truck tunnel.
- Fixed net-tool replace mode is enabled when no compatible assets exist.
- Fixed destroyed buildings still create Noise Pollution.
- Fixed 'No Pedestrian Access' warning appearing for Medical University after adding Extension Wing upgrade
- Fixed issue where the cost of purchasing multiple map tiles varied depending on the order in which the map tiles were selected
- Fixed workplace links in citizen Selected Info Panel not working when the workplace was a service building.
- Fixed screen resolution set in the launcher right after the game launch not being applied.
- Fixed all overlay shaders broken when using dynamic resolution scaling.
- Fixed minor inconsistencies with infoview coloring for cables/pipes/lot for buildings under construction, destroyed or otherwise without mesh.
- Added secondary infoview background color so that roads don't disappear on terrain.
- Improved RCIO tax statistic colors to correspond zone colors
- Removed car paths and parking on NA_MixedRight01_L1_4x6 (and L2) and NA_MixedLeft01_L1_4x6 (and L2) to prevent pathfinding fails due to how the buildings can spawn
- Several improvements and fixes for controllers:
- Added more controller hints.
- Improved options navigation with controller so that moving between page content and search is consistent when tabs or advanced options are visible
- Improved multiline text to be focusable so that scrollable panel can scroll to it while using a controller
- Fixed navigating with the controller over an upkeep section required multiple up/down presses on the controller.
- Fixed options menu controller navigation issues when "Show advanced" toggle is present.
- Fixed not all locked toolbar items were focusable with the controller making it impossible to see the conditions to unlock a given feature.
- Fixed requirement tooltips for placing a building not updating properly when moving the building with a controller
- Fixed an issue with controller that it was impossible to scroll to the end of the building info panel list if the building did not have any upgrades
- Fixed tooltips not rendering properly on top of the controller hints.
- Fixed issue with opening mods UI profile page with gamepad
- Fixed issue where names of tabs inside the City Services panel cannot be accessed when using a controller
- Fixed building effects not rendering correctly in the UI.
- Fixed a bug where placing a road could cause tooltips to jump between their target positions
- Fixed building effects when viewing detail tooltip where placing a building could overlap with building icon
- Fixed options slider field slider position not updating properly if its value was changed outside of the options menu - ie. changing radio volume in radio panel
- Fixed issue where closing citizen lifepath detail view the list would not re-focus on the last focused entry
- Several fixes for UI interface scaling when using bigger text size.
- Fixed UI disappearing on some tutorial step transitions.
- Fixed UI disappearing on closing signature building unlock dialog.
- Fixed options description not changing after scrolling certain dropdown lists.
- Fixed loading warning popup staying on top of the frozen/busy state of loading screen and not fading out.
- Fixed non-centered error message in Paradox Account -panel.
- Fixed Paradox account link button overflowing in various languages.
- Fixed Economy budget panel overlapping text in some languages.
- Fixed tooltips rendering outside of the screen.
- Fixed edge case of quitting the main menu or starting a new game by opening the pause menu from the button in the upper-right corner while using map tiles view.
- Rebalanced all citizen audio volumes.
- Fixed cemetery sounds not playing.
- Fixed audio source position that was not correctly set for multiple assets:
- Fixed sounds of Residential Signature Buildings play even if buildings are not functional
- Fixed sound effect of navigating through the Main Menu is almost inaudible
- Fixed Overground Parking's upgrade does not add new sounds
- Keybinding:
- Block all actions while listening for key press when the rebinding process is ongoing.
- Added the ability to reset key binding to the default.
- Added controller button icons to key binding options.
- Added support for rebinding some specific tool actions and camera rotation
- Added batch rebinding option which allows changing multiple keybinds without receiving the "cannot be rebound" error
- Fixed controller hint when two direction action has bindings when one direction has binding with modifier and another one without modifier.
- Added auto-detect for keyboard layout. Keybinds are converted to the current layout and keep their physical location (for example, WASD key bindings on French keyboard will be shown as ZQSD). It converts only Latin-based layouts, while US international layout is used for other non-Latin-based layouts.
- Fixed building Selected Info Panel not opening when the Info Panel option is assigned to the Right Mouse button and disallowed the same key being set for Info Panel and Cancel actions.
Known issues
- Medical clinics not refilling their pharmaceutical storage is fixed, but with old saves you might need to wait longer to see it to recover because the resource could become negative. As a workaround, you can destroy and rebuild the building.
- With old saves, the water budget is reset to the default 100% value.
- Existing saves may experience a death wave if they have a lot of senior citizens, however, we’ve made changes to avoid these in the future,
Liking the update so far. Something I highly recommend is allowing users to pick and choose what services they import. I went from -3000 ish to -22,000. I had police, water, and a few others however, I was importing g police services still even though I had that covered. We should be able to pick and choose what services are brought in, not a all or nothing thing.
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Reading people their reaction about the tile upkeep costs and how it interferes if you need tiles but don't build on them per se
An idea/suggestion: maybe calculate the price of each tile based upon the squares that have buildings/roads on them to make it more realistic and smooth in gameplay. That way it is realistic and you are not forced to build very dense and high from the start and it also works for the landscape sculptors out there.
Also a question: is there a hotfix planned for the office bug? Or do we have to wait until Q3 for that?
An idea/suggestion: maybe calculate the price of each tile based upon the squares that have buildings/roads on them to make it more realistic and smooth in gameplay. That way it is realistic and you are not forced to build very dense and high from the start and it also works for the landscape sculptors out there.
Also a question: is there a hotfix planned for the office bug? Or do we have to wait until Q3 for that?
i am getting masses sickness and death waves in the my city to the point i had to put on unlimited money as i had to spam hospitals and death care to trying keep up with the demand but even then the green bars say i have surfactant survives there not enough pick up the sick and dead. also i am having to put down way more schools than i had to before this putting up expenditure to an insane level forcing you to play with unlimited funds or else the game is unplayable but that does not stop the fact of all the death and health care popup in the city but the funny thing is the population keeps on increasing. then there times all demand stops then it goes back to an infinite influx. this was not happening before the patch
You can do that with anarchy and it looks really bad. Add. it causes sometimes overlap with adjacent buildings despite there being no visual overlap and so it despawns them / doesnt allow them to grow. I think it is better for them to make dedicated stairs with proper stair walking animations.Just change the limit for pedestrian ramps. Even if they don't have visual indication that they are stairs (I don't think CS1 had them, it's been a while) a 35-45° angle would solve a lot of problems
At 45deg angle an overpass ramp can be built inside a 5x2m rectangle.
Did you read any of the diaries regarding the effects of the update on existing saves?
I plopped one crematorium with a bunch of additional garages, resulting in 65 caravans emerging from it. They cleared a district in no time. Never had to use unlimited money, just fiddled with taxes to stay on the positive. The population keeps increasing because all the caravan icons are people that are already dead - and new people are coming to the city anyway, just check your population stats.
It looks like it's a you problem, not the game. My city, aside from expected deathwave, is fine.
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this is a new game also i don't know where the import services its not intuitive what to so ever is and once buildings are place its hard to relocate them even if the ground is flat. my only game laterally do nothing they chug along at hardly anything and i have a 3069 cards, 32GB of RAN and a i5 12400f it was working before the patch.
this is nothing to do with an exciting when i am on a new city i am getting die offs because the ambulances are not driving to pick up the sick and then the hursts are not picking up the dead.
the game is broken
the game isn’t broken. @co_avanya gives links above to the two previous developer diaries, but these patch notes summarize all the changes. if you read them you’ll see the wave of deaths you’re experiencing was predicted.
Whether you can successfully migrate your city depends partly on how much money you had in your treasury. It will take about three months IN-GAME to get through the death wave. You might consider adding a crematorium or expanding the capacity of the one you presently have.
Then you’ll need to make adjustments to your taxation and expenses to reach positive cash flow. It’s more difficult because revenue has been finished and upkeep expenses are more costly.
Another option is to start a new city entirely. tile upkeep costs are waived for your first nine tiles.
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New City: 50k Cims. Without mods.
The patch works.
-Barely "high rent"
-Very scarce "abandoned buildings"
-Residencial Media rises to level 4/5
-Building of "cheap rent" work and rise level
-Residencial high rises to level 3 (until now)
-You even see more Cims "struggling" for visiting the parks
Economic difficulty is adjusted: until milestone 5 there is hardly money. Then it begins to rise slowly, very slow.
It makes you play a new rhythm, we have to put services previously forgotten, such as landfills. Or the cemetery takes a new value.
We must prioritize what services: money is a drip.
Nobody comes from the outside to "cover" the lack of services, the new politicy is as if not there is: without money for her.
Demand bars go up and fall as if they had their own life.
The production of specialized industry is adjusted, and with a grain field it has for a long time, until putting the 2nd. The same thing happens with the rest.
I already have 3 secondary schools, before with 1 value for 200k Cims.
The game has a way to go, but now it is shorter.
The patch works.
-Barely "high rent"
-Very scarce "abandoned buildings"
-Residencial Media rises to level 4/5
-Building of "cheap rent" work and rise level
-Residencial high rises to level 3 (until now)
-You even see more Cims "struggling" for visiting the parks
Economic difficulty is adjusted: until milestone 5 there is hardly money. Then it begins to rise slowly, very slow.
It makes you play a new rhythm, we have to put services previously forgotten, such as landfills. Or the cemetery takes a new value.
We must prioritize what services: money is a drip.
Nobody comes from the outside to "cover" the lack of services, the new politicy is as if not there is: without money for her.
Demand bars go up and fall as if they had their own life.
The production of specialized industry is adjusted, and with a grain field it has for a long time, until putting the 2nd. The same thing happens with the rest.
I already have 3 secondary schools, before with 1 value for 200k Cims.
The game has a way to go, but now it is shorter.
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@benzoll
Tengo curiosidad… ¿cómo navegaste por el crimen? Las notas del parche indican que los edificios zonificados generan delincuentes en ausencia de cobertura. ¿Tuvo problemas con una gran cantidad de delincuentes a pesar de la baja probabilidad de cometer delitos? ¿Estableció la cobertura por distrito y dónde estableció el presupuesto contra el crimen en las diferentes fases de su construcción? ¿Empiezas con un 50% y aumentas a medida que acumulas un flujo de caja positivo? ¿O fue este un servicio que priorizaste al 150% desde el principio?
I’m curious… how did you navigate crime? The patch notes indicate that zoned buildings generate criminals in the absence of coverage. Did you have problems with huge numbers of criminals despite low crime probability? Did you set coverage by district, and where did you set the crime budget through the different phases of your build? Do you start at 50% and increase as you accumulated positive cash flow? Or was this a service you prioritized at 150% from the very beginning?
Tengo curiosidad… ¿cómo navegaste por el crimen? Las notas del parche indican que los edificios zonificados generan delincuentes en ausencia de cobertura. ¿Tuvo problemas con una gran cantidad de delincuentes a pesar de la baja probabilidad de cometer delitos? ¿Estableció la cobertura por distrito y dónde estableció el presupuesto contra el crimen en las diferentes fases de su construcción? ¿Empiezas con un 50% y aumentas a medida que acumulas un flujo de caja positivo? ¿O fue este un servicio que priorizaste al 150% desde el principio?
I’m curious… how did you navigate crime? The patch notes indicate that zoned buildings generate criminals in the absence of coverage. Did you have problems with huge numbers of criminals despite low crime probability? Did you set coverage by district, and where did you set the crime budget through the different phases of your build? Do you start at 50% and increase as you accumulated positive cash flow? Or was this a service you prioritized at 150% from the very beginning?
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Still no fix or feature of breaking up crazy long roads that are considered to be a single road despite having junctions roundabouts etcHi everyone! I hope you're ready for some long patch notes because 1.1.5f1 (also known as Economy 2.0) has a lot of changes for you!
Before we get into all of those we have one important note to add for existing saves: Your city will experience a temporarily increased death rate. Since the dev diary detailing what you can expect to happen with your saves, we have made changes to when citizens die. The changes add more variety so you don’t end up with a very large amount of seniors who all die around the same time. But to prevent these large future death waves, your city will need to say goodbye to some of its existing citizens.
Additionally, we have added a Tile Upkeep cost since the dev diaries, which you will want to keep an eye on, especially if you have used Unlock All or mods to unlock all map tiles. Cities that have unlocked tiles gradually as they become available through milestones are expected to be able to afford the land they own (perhaps with some adjustments to taxes and service budgets), but if your city is still small and has unlocked most of the map, you may want to enable Unlimited Money.
For a quick overview of everything you should keep in mind when loading an existing save, check out this thread.
We also want to thank you for all the feedback and bug reports you have shared. They have been very helpful in making these improvements and fixing issues. As always, we greatly appreciate your reports, and if you have any issues following this patch, please report them here:
Cities: Skylines 2 - Bug Reports
We look forward to hearing your experiences with the patch. You're welcome to share your thoughts in this thread, in the main forum, or in the Suggestions section of the forum. Constructive feedback is very valuable to us and we greatly appreciate the time you take to share it with us. Now, let's get to the patch notes.
Patch Notes 1.1.5f
Building Upgrade Rework
- More control over upgrades from the Selected Info Panel of City Service buildings.
- All upgrade types can be removed from the Selected Info Panel of a City Service building.
- Sub-buildings can be removed by using the bulldozer as well.
- Sub-buildings can be relocated.
- Sub-building can be turned on/off.
- Sub-buildings can be selected.
- Sub-building upgrades can now be placed freely within a radius limit from the main building.
- Updated City Service tutorial.
Economy updates
- Government subsidies for the city have been removed to make the economy more challenging and transparent.
- Taxes and Services tabs in the Economy panel now unlock at milestone 1 and the Production tab unlocks at milestone 2.
- Added “Import City Services” city policy to toggle import of city services from Outside Connections.
- Separate imported service items in the budget panel.
- Outside Connections won't send service vehicles if the policy is toggled off.
- Added imported service expenses for ambulance, hearse, fire engine, garbage, and police. The fee scales with the city's population.
- City Service changes:
- Increased chance of entering and graduating both Elementary School and High School.
- Adults can now apply to High School if they didn’t finish it (1% chance, can apply 3 times).
- Garbage accumulation accounts for students, employees, prisoners, occupants, and homeless people in the calculation.
- Balanced garbage city service upgrades.
- Buildings now pay a fixed fee for garbage collection instead of a variable amount based on garbage collected.
- Adjusted garbage accumulation values.
- Adjusted upkeep costs of most City Service Buildings.
- Wages for city service employees are paid from player money
- Increased electricity import price.
- Increased the time it takes for Ambulance and Hearse notifications to appear.
- Adjusted the Service Fee curves for efficiency and consumption.
- Adjusted water service fees (With old saves the game will force reset the value to the new default position).
- Increased the amount of workers for
- Medical Clinic
- Small Coal Power Plant
- Police Station
- Cemetery
- Fire House
- Landfill
- Demand changes:
- Residential density depends on household wealth and family size.
- Household spawns are based on average citizen happiness, homelessness, tax, available student positions, and available jobs.
- Commercial companies spawn based on household needs, reducing how often the same companies appear in the city.
- Commercial and industrial demand has been adjusted to avoid “Not enough customers” complaints for newly spawned companies.
- Taxes now have more effect on demand.
- Employment changes:
- Workers from Outside Connections no longer pay tax.
- Workers from Outside Connections are not included in population or workplace infoviews.
- Workers from Outside Connections will look for new job more frequently.
- Workplaces in Outside Connections are less desirable than workplaces in the city.
- Only citizens who don't have health problems (such as Sick or Injured) count as valid employable citizens.
- Citizens can only receive unemployment for a limited amount of time. When they run out of unemployment, they will complain about “High Rent” and move away.
- Fixed population jobs & workers amount issue.
- Households & happiness changes:
- Households without adults will now move away.
- Rich households prefer larger homes in attractive neighborhoods (higher land value, good service coverage, etc), poor households prefer cheaper houses and don’t mind services being far away.
- Household needs are calculated based on their spendable money (what’s left after paying rent), so they now spend their money more reasonably.
- Reduced the number of senior citizens moving into the city.
- Adjusted wealth happiness factor to a reasonable value.
- Low happiness affects the chance a household will move out of the city.
- Households consider the garbage fee when calculating their spendable money.
- Added curve parameter to death rate to smooth the death of senior citizens (existing cities will experience an immediate death wave)
- Production and Company changes:
- Adjusted values for:
- Resource production.
- Resource price.
- Household wages.
- Tax income.
- Resource price now has two parts, a lower one for industrial processing, and another for commercial companies’ service prices. Customers (households) pay full price, which is both parts combined.
- Changed the workforce needed per unit for resource processing to a preconfigured amount instead of automatically calculated at the start of the game.
- Companies now go bankrupt instead of looking for new locations if their current property isn’t suitable for profit.
- Changed Industrial Manufacturing space multiplier from 1 to 5 to allow more workers per grid so fewer buildings are needed.
- Adjusted office employee amount.
- Adjusted amount of work required per product to decrease city income.
- Adjusted simulated service prices.
- Improved companies to move away not just because of bankruptcy, but also because of the tax rate and workforce factors.
- Rebalanced Extractor Resource greatly reducing profitability.
- Balanced Industrial and Office companies Default Output Amount, Max Workers Per cell, Resources Initial Price, and Work needed per unit. Increased Space multiplier of Industrial and Office zones.
- Rent and Building Level changes:
- Removed the virtual landlord so building upkeep is now paid equally by all renters.
- Added new rent calculation: Rent = (LandValue + (ZoneType * Building Level)) * LotSize * SpaceMultiplier.
- Tweaked “High Rent” notifications to be based on the household’s income. Even if they currently don’t have enough money in their balance, they won’t complain and will instead spend less money on resource consumption.
- Building level is now based on whether renters can pay the upkeep fee. When they pay the full fee, the building condition increases by a constant amount, if they cannot pay it, the building condition decreases by the same amount.
- Crime rate adjustments:
- Fixed police service coverage for zoneable assets. The police station will patrol regularly to decrease the crime rate, and all zone type buildings will increase crime rate depending on the police service coverage.
- NA and EU PoliceVehicle02 Crime Reduction value changed to match the NA and EU policevehicle01 value.
- Removed crime scene pathfinding limitation of building's crime rate to avoid all criminals having the same pathfinding result to queue up to do crime.
- Added new crime factor to lower crime probability in cities with larger populations.
- Lower crime recurrence probability due to criminals needing to wait a long while to remove criminal tag.
- Increased the cost of purchasing Map Tiles.
- Added upkeep fee for new map tiles
- The 9 starting are excluded and do not have have map tile upkeep fee
- Added option to “Unlock all map tiles” (also disables achievements and the tile upkeep cost)
- Increased construction cost and upkeep costs for roads.
- Moved upkeep breakdown from Tooltip to Selected info panel.
- Reduced the amount of money the player gets back from bulldozing roads and buildings.
- Adjusted the max shopping amount of the household from 4000 to 2000.
- Adjusted Specialized Industry Unlocking to start from milestone 0.
- Fixed taxes being collected after bulldozing the entire City.
- Fixed Citizen Wealth Infoview not highlighting households with 'Wretched' wealth level.
- Fixed the wrong moving away statistic data being displayed.
- Fixed a newly spawned company complaining about a lack of workers.
- Fixed commercial zones incur massive amounts of debt for the citizens.
- Fixed refund inconsistencies when replacing roads and stops.
- Fixed high death possibility issue:
- Fire accidents now will only cause 1% death compared to the previous 50% death of an on fire medium/high density building.
- The building's destruction event will now cause 50% death compared to previous 90% death of citizens who are still in it.
- Fixed Outside Connection workers won't find a job.
- Fixed trade cost divided by zero bug.
Modding
- Updated mod publisher to use auto login from Paradox SDK.
- Updated Paradox Mods to Version 1.5.2
- Added new feature: Mod details will now show what dependencies are installed and if any are missing
- Improvement: When started, it will now try to go online again if being offline before
- Improvement: Change the close X hover effect when using a gamepad
- Improvement: Improve text on empty state when on library or playset details when offline
- Fix: Offline mode will now start with your active playset
- Fixed double back click from following creators view
- Fixed broken bumper navigation when offline and using a gamepad
- Fixed gamepad legend when offline on library or playset details
- Fix: Pressing the B button on a gamepad will now close the Sync modal
- Fixed a warning with font weights
- Fixed a warning with height not being set correctly in scrollbars
- Added support for custom units for sliders used in mod settings
- Added support for keybindings for mods:
- Mods can introduce their own input action which are integrated into the game input system.
- Added key binding field to the automatic option which allows mods to provide key rebinding for their actions.
- Added built-in conflict detection between the game bindings and mods bindings based on action usage.
- Added warning sign next to each binding which has conflicts.
- Added main menu notification if a mod has a key binding conflict.
- Added support for 3 different types of actions: press (1 button), axis (negative and positive button), vector (up, down, left, right buttons)
- Added the ability to set separate keyboard key and gamepad button for one action.
- Added the ability to use built-in and write custom processors and interactions for actions.
- Fixed issue where downloading a certain number of mods in a specific way resulted in a crash to desktop.
- Fixed a bug where SettingsUISetterAttribute could not use private methods and properties
- Fixed installing notification getting stuck when downloading a mod failed.
- Updated notification texts.
- Updated "mod loading error" dialog to show the error.
- Fixed issue with mods not loading if playset was changed using the web version or there are mod updates.
- Fixed some cases when mods are not loaded or "enabled code mods are changed" notification does not appear.
- Fixed "mod page" and "disable" buttons being visible on mod loading error message box with local mods.
- Fixed endless "mod loading..." notification if mods failed to load.
- Fixed Unity installation not being found if the game is running on a different account than the one who installed Unity
- Fixed issue where modding toolchain install/uninstall warning dialog overflows when the list of dependencies is long by making the panel scrollable
Performance
- UI performance optimizations for the economy panel.
- Other UI performance optimizations with audio bindings, rendering, cursors, and updating panels.
- Performance optimization for Chirper panel.
- Optimizations for particle effects.
- Optimizations for audio memory usage.
- Optimized placement to improve FPS when placing complex buildings or roads.
- Fixed job-finding performance issue when there were no available workplaces and no employable workers, causing endless job pathfinding queries which heavily affect the performance.
Fixes & improvements
- Unity update 2022.3.29f1
- Fixed a crash to desktop when using the quick load function while relocating and rotating a building.
- Fixed a crash to desktop after deleting Train Station with a broken Subway connection and trying to place new subway tracks.
- Fixed crash to desktop in SetupFindHomeJob
- Fixed crash to desktop caused by removed renter.
- Fixed crash to desktop when resizing oil extractor area so that some pumps get deleted
- Improved likelihood of household members traveling together as a group.
- Improved hue, saturation, and randomness values of tree leaves.
- Improved collision radius for BirchTree, PineTree, and SpruceTree to better match the visual empty space. The bushes etc. can now be propped closer to the trees.
- Improved citizens and delivery vehicles pathfinding to take building construction time and path duration into account to avoid arriving at construction sites.
- Ambulances transport some patients in emergency mode (randomized with health level).
- Lowered building fire spreading probability to other buildings.
- Changed default glass material from tinted brown to non-tinted.
- Updated EU and NA theme icons.
- Improved wealth info view color and citizen wealth state parameters.
- Fixed wealth info view color not matching household wealth, changed it from household member based wealth to household based wealth.
- Improved Airport development tree node icon.
- Adjusted XP values for low construction cost building.
- Fixed depots so trains/subway can now only drive through them by using dedicated by-pass track (the track without “No Track Connection”).
- Fixed Several Signature Buildings don't get occupied (must be rebuilt for the fix to take effect)
- Changed signature building info view color priority higher in RCIO infoviews
- Fixed Ludo Square and Cane Residences signature building bonuses to be more consistent.
- Fixed issue with some settings not getting saved.
- Fixed achievements progression on saves that have used mods not being disabled.
- Fixed specialized industry main building missing.
- Fixed Forestry and Ore Industrial Storage yard props not showing.
- Fixed farming extraction area color so it’s visible on fertile land with the info view open.
- Fixed crematorium sub-building car access when snapped to the main building. Main building or sub-building(s) need to be moved/replopped for this to take effect.
- Fixed specific situation causing taxis from Outside Connections to get stuck for a long while.
- Fixed wrong passenger count/capacity displayed for personal cars that have a trailer attached.
- Fixed driver not included in passenger count and capacity for personal vehicles.
- Fixed vehicles driving through parking facilities or transport stations without intending to use their services.
- Fixed citizens parking their cars at public transport stations without the intention to board a transport line there.
- Fixed traffic jams occurring inside Parking buildings.
- Fixed airplanes driving through the runway without landing at the airport.
- Fixed issue where fire engines are unable to react to and extinguish the additional buildings from the specialized industry areas
- Fixed Garbage Trucks collecting garbage outside their operating district if their way goes through different district.
- Fixed resource piles on spawnable storage yards not instantly updating when delivery truck unloads cargo.
- Fixed trucks keep going back and forth between commercial and industry.
- Fixed commercial companies accidentally exporting goods to other companies.
- Fixed broken pathfinding warning after rebuilding destroyed service building that has extension upgrades.
- Fixed mail getting stuck due to heavy traffic at the cargo terminal by adding a trip needed buffer amount as another cost in resource trade pathfinding.
- Added a penalty for resource pathfinding when the cargo station has more requests or sent out most of the vehicles.
- Fixed Water Tower’s viewing upgrade not providing entertainment.
- Fixed Hospitals and Clinics not refilling their pharmaceuticals storage
- Fixed cargo train terminal left and back paths not connecting to roads too
- Fixed City Policies not clearing properly and carrying over between different save game loads
- Fixed The Deep End achievement not unlocking at exactly 200000 loan
- Fixed citizens stopped finding jobs when unemployment was high
- Fixed high unemployment rate issue by adding variety to the citizen education levels when spawning
- Fixed population infoview jobs didn't match workplace info view's data
- Fixed discrepancy in workplace count by excluded the Outside Connection workplaces from population's calculation
- Fixed DateTime overflow error by reducing the max starting year for a map to 3000.
- Fixed floating prop issues with Deuclidia Apartments, Nuclear Power Plant and Technical University.
- Fixed hotel renter deserialization bug causing unknown mayhem for tourist / hotel logic.
- Fixed tourists with "Leaving the city" status not leaving the hotel.
- Fixed Parallel and grid roads misplace connected road lane.
- Fixed Roundabouts disappear when connecting roads at a certain angle.
- Fixed track slope causing tight curve warning / no connection when built a certain way.
- Fixed connection notifications with buildings over a train truck tunnel.
- Fixed net-tool replace mode is enabled when no compatible assets exist.
- Fixed destroyed buildings still create Noise Pollution.
- Fixed 'No Pedestrian Access' warning appearing for Medical University after adding Extension Wing upgrade
- Fixed issue where the cost of purchasing multiple map tiles varied depending on the order in which the map tiles were selected
- Fixed workplace links in citizen Selected Info Panel not working when the workplace was a service building.
- Fixed screen resolution set in the launcher right after the game launch not being applied.
- Fixed all overlay shaders broken when using dynamic resolution scaling.
- Fixed minor inconsistencies with infoview coloring for cables/pipes/lot for buildings under construction, destroyed or otherwise without mesh.
- Added secondary infoview background color so that roads don't disappear on terrain.
- Improved RCIO tax statistic colors to correspond zone colors
- Removed car paths and parking on NA_MixedRight01_L1_4x6 (and L2) and NA_MixedLeft01_L1_4x6 (and L2) to prevent pathfinding fails due to how the buildings can spawn
- Several improvements and fixes for controllers:
- Added more controller hints.
- Improved options navigation with controller so that moving between page content and search is consistent when tabs or advanced options are visible
- Improved multiline text to be focusable so that scrollable panel can scroll to it while using a controller
- Fixed navigating with the controller over an upkeep section required multiple up/down presses on the controller.
- Fixed options menu controller navigation issues when "Show advanced" toggle is present.
- Fixed not all locked toolbar items were focusable with the controller making it impossible to see the conditions to unlock a given feature.
- Fixed requirement tooltips for placing a building not updating properly when moving the building with a controller
- Fixed an issue with controller that it was impossible to scroll to the end of the building info panel list if the building did not have any upgrades
- Fixed tooltips not rendering properly on top of the controller hints.
- Fixed issue with opening mods UI profile page with gamepad
- Fixed issue where names of tabs inside the City Services panel cannot be accessed when using a controller
- Fixed building effects not rendering correctly in the UI.
- Fixed a bug where placing a road could cause tooltips to jump between their target positions
- Fixed building effects when viewing detail tooltip where placing a building could overlap with building icon
- Fixed options slider field slider position not updating properly if its value was changed outside of the options menu - ie. changing radio volume in radio panel
- Fixed issue where closing citizen lifepath detail view the list would not re-focus on the last focused entry
- Several fixes for UI interface scaling when using bigger text size.
- Fixed UI disappearing on some tutorial step transitions.
- Fixed UI disappearing on closing signature building unlock dialog.
- Fixed options description not changing after scrolling certain dropdown lists.
- Fixed loading warning popup staying on top of the frozen/busy state of loading screen and not fading out.
- Fixed non-centered error message in Paradox Account -panel.
- Fixed Paradox account link button overflowing in various languages.
- Fixed Economy budget panel overlapping text in some languages.
- Fixed tooltips rendering outside of the screen.
- Fixed edge case of quitting the main menu or starting a new game by opening the pause menu from the button in the upper-right corner while using map tiles view.
- Rebalanced all citizen audio volumes.
- Fixed cemetery sounds not playing.
- Fixed audio source position that was not correctly set for multiple assets:
- Fixed sounds of Residential Signature Buildings play even if buildings are not functional
- Fixed sound effect of navigating through the Main Menu is almost inaudible
- Fixed Overground Parking's upgrade does not add new sounds
- Keybinding:
- Block all actions while listening for key press when the rebinding process is ongoing.
- Added the ability to reset key binding to the default.
- Added controller button icons to key binding options.
- Added support for rebinding some specific tool actions and camera rotation
- Added batch rebinding option which allows changing multiple keybinds without receiving the "cannot be rebound" error
- Fixed controller hint when two direction action has bindings when one direction has binding with modifier and another one without modifier.
- Added auto-detect for keyboard layout. Keybinds are converted to the current layout and keep their physical location (for example, WASD key bindings on French keyboard will be shown as ZQSD). It converts only Latin-based layouts, while US international layout is used for other non-Latin-based layouts.
- Fixed building Selected Info Panel not opening when the Info Panel option is assigned to the Right Mouse button and disallowed the same key being set for Info Panel and Cancel actions.
Known issues
- Medical clinics not refilling their pharmaceutical storage is fixed, but with old saves you might need to wait longer to see it to recover because the resource could become negative. As a workaround, you can destroy and rebuild the building.
- With old saves, the water budget is reset to the default 100% value.
- Existing saves may experience a death wave if they have a lot of senior citizens, however, we’ve made changes to avoid these in the future,
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This game has much bigger issues than this ... would be a waste of time & manpower.
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it was a new game i started really there was no population as there was no city, also everything is overpriced in maintenance. and a my old games are not working at all i waited almost 2 hours for the game to fix itself on the old saves nothing really happened ended up deleting all the building that had dead people in. i had to deleted the death care and build new to get them working again but the it just stopped working entirely the only thing that works is the achievements and the population did not decrease it kepted growing. unlike my new game where the population reaches 3ok then dies off in mass when there ample health care.
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I've been playing CS2 since it launched. Have to say the latest patch is excellent. It feels so much more challenging and I love it. Pre-patch I could have had a city making crazy amounts of money up and running fairly quickly. I started a new game with minimal mods (traffic lights and lane control only) and it took a lot longer to build things up. It forced me to think as I had to budget and make sure I had the money to do what I wanted. Even took out a loan for the first time since playing the game.
So much better. Thank you for continuing to work on this.
I also echo what others have said, if we can have stairs for pedestrian overpasses it would be a big help. Building overhead walkways is a chore and takes up a lot of space. Don't take this as a criticism tho, latest patch gets big thumbs up from me.
So much better. Thank you for continuing to work on this.
I also echo what others have said, if we can have stairs for pedestrian overpasses it would be a big help. Building overhead walkways is a chore and takes up a lot of space. Don't take this as a criticism tho, latest patch gets big thumbs up from me.
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well the new city i have is having death waves the upkeep of recourses is unrealistic the UI is imposable to see what is going on. also the existing's games the crematoriums had to be deleted as they where not connecting to the road. also i waited almost 2 hours and it did not fix the problem
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