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Thank you for replying - I obviously mis-understood all the hype of 3d cache - I thought its job was to improve video gaming FPS performance. So you are saying the SINGLE factor I need to consider is the fastest SINGLE core performance I can find that comes with the largest level 3 cache - OK - makes the decision easier - once again thank you.
 
Note: Resurrecting the thread for AMD 9800X3D CPU now that the reviews for it are out. The thread has lots of still valid advice and discussion about performance in Stellaris and creating new thread seems unnecessary as performance is rather limited topic.

Gamers Nexus and Linus Tech Tips have Stellaris in their 9800X3D review and seems solid performance increase over 5800X3D and 7800X3D - though I would not consider upgrade from 7800X3D to be worth it. It also includes other CPUs: Ryzen 9000 series very competitive. 9800X3D has other advantages of course, especially over 5800X3D - most notable being much improved performance in productivity stuff besides games (check for example Techpowerup review for that).

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Techpowerup Review for other games and productivity: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/
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Yes, this 500€ cpu will now take the crown for Stellaris. I have a 7800x3d running atm and really want to skip this generation. I think the ones from next year will be good to finalize the am5 platform for me.

And still, it is not the raw speed for me that is not good in the current situation. The game runs fast enough even into the late 2600s, but the daily tick stutter is there literally after 30 years of playing. As soon as you know it will be there you will notice it. And it get worse with every year played...

I play on a computer with basically "unlimited" resources in every other game, these lags just turn me off very, very quick while playing. Why should I look at a spread sheet diashow when other, super eye candy games run fine and well on my pc?
 
I understand people who require fifty mods to enjoy the game seeing performance issues, but I haven't noticed meaningful late game lag in years.

Buuuuut I also always play with 2.5 tech costs so I don't get to repeatables until the end of the game because I like each tech to feel meaningful. This also means there are less pops in the galaxy and therefore fewer ships and buildings and megastructures and everything else, so could the much vaunted MP fave 0.5 tech cost be the cause of some of the lag problems people see? I play Admiral and do end most games before the crisis lands as once I can beat FE I know the game is done, but in games when I am weaker the 1 x crisis feels pretty balanced and threatening and fun. I'm probably just terrible at the game??


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