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Rome 499-515 AVC

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"Roman Vigilance"

In the year 499 Rome was in the middle of their second civil war. And much like the first, thousands of proud roman citizens volunteered to preserve the republic. And as Rome was putting down the rebellion the Roman senate made a disturbing discovery. Roman scouts had reported that Carthage was massing their armies and fleets for an attack.

The senate swiftly sent the Roman fleet block any invasion attempt. The senate had decided to let Carthage make the first move. Once Carthage realized their plot had been discovered they were forced to change their plans and cancel the invasion of Italy.

Roman intelligence had concluded that Carthage was attempting a surprise attack while the Romans were busy fighting rebels. But with a swift deployment of the Roman fleet the possible invasion was stopped before it could begin. After the conflict had been avoided the roman senate offered Carthage peace for the entire 3rd session which the Carthaginians agreed to.

This allowed Rome to finish off the rebels and replenish their manpower. Although the majority of the roman army joined the rebels initially, by the civil wars end the Roman army was even larger than before....free of charge ofcourse. After peace had been restored to Rome the senate had planned to annex Macedonia but they were outmanuevered by Egypt.

This angered the Roman senate, so much so that they decreed the province of Macedonia to be Roman territory. The ramifications of this have yet to be played out. The rest of the 3rd session was relatively quiet for Rome, except for Masilla canceling their tribute and paying for it with one of their provinces. The Romans watched the Carthaginian state destroy itself in a bloody civil war which is showing no signs of stopping. In the year 515 the roman senate sent diplomats to Carthage to deliver Rome's suggestions on the endless conflict.

Rome has some very interesting decisions to make next session but with the worlds largest Army and Navy they are ready for whatever challenges lay ahead.
 
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Carthage 499-515 AVC: It was the Worst of Times

The year 499 began with the Carthage's Senate on the brink of a decision: Join forces with the Roman Rebels and deal a death blow to the beast from across the sea or come to the aid of their Egyptian neighbors and strike the upstart Greek state that had taken root in their rebellious western provinces.

While the Senate debated, the army boarded ship and headed towards Rome. The fleet took evasive action, following a course around the western end of Sicily in the hope of catching the Romans by surprise. As they approached the Roman homeland, they received disturbing reports that the Roman Rebels were faltering. Worse yet, Roman ships were shadowing them. Having lost the advantage of surprise, the Senate called off the invasion and sent the fleet back towards Egypt.

A short, successful war against the Greek state ended with the addition of two rich provinces. Fortune was at last smiling upon Carthage. But not the Populists. The Senate was driven to distraction by their antics and continual threats of rebellion. But in their typical dithering fashion they continued to debate whether to assassinate the head trouble makers right up to the time Civil War broke out.

Initially, it looked like the rebellion would be put down quickly. But then a pattern developed: Carthage would win battle after battle against the rebels, take back all but one or two provinces, have the rebels on the brink of defeat, and then prominent citizens would defect to the rebels, giving them a second, and then a third, and then a fourth new life.

As the year 515 approaches, the Senate has decided to re-organize the Army and to implore the clueless B. Adoniballid to resign his position as Suffet. Already he has served nearly eight years, four times longer than any other recent Suffet. Although his party still holds a small plurality in the Senate, a rising star from the Populists is eager to take over. And, despite the Populist's past record, the nation is looking forward to the change.
 
sounds like theres alot more civil wars than there use to be. i like the use of pictures, hows armenia doing fighting with the sec empire? does not look like theres any expansion. was hoping ost would be writing stories. anyway the stories are great to read the vv sounds like it added quite the interesting turn to mp.
 
AAR Egypt - 499 - 513 AVC

As the year 499 AVC came and went, the King of Egypt, Callicrates, continued to preside over the worst civil war in the nation's history. The Egyptian Rebels Army currently numbered 81,000 to Egypt's 63,000, however, their navy was non-existent. Therefore, the Rebels continued to dominate the Egyptian mainland, however, the Egyptians maintained their strongholds in the Greek Islands, Greece, and Asia Minor. (see below photo of Egyptian Rebels strongholds)


Unlike the early years of the civil war, these past years were confined to small amphibious landings by small Rebel raiding parties, when they managed to build a ship, which were swiftly put down by the Egyptians. This was promoted by the curious Seleucid Empire who continued trading wood with the Rebels, however, instead of causing problems for the Egyptians, this lead to easy seizures of Rebel ships that were added to growing Egyptian Navy of 38 ships. Currently, with such Egyptian dominance over the seas, the Rebels cannot muster a knock out blow. On the flip side, the Egyptians can't field an army large enough to defeat the Rebels and their superior forces. In fact, no country of the ancient world has dared confront the Egyptian Rebels.

Thus, Callicrates turned to diplomacy at the turn of the century. Rumors circled that a larger nation would try and capitlize on his plight, however, these rumors were brushed off by Callicrates, since little did his potential enemies know that they were still able to field a large army, which no country would want to face alone. With Carthage and the Seleucid Empire remaining silent, Callicrates welcomed a diplomat from Rome and agreed to a non-agression treaty since Rome was dealing with its own civil war. Callicrates then waited for someone to a make a move. (see below photo of Egyptian strongholds)


This move never came, therefore, as planned Egypt quickly went on the offensive against Greek Cyrenaica in 499 AVC, who had declared its independence from the Egyptian Rebels. The war was going extremely well for Egypt, and the Greeks were on the verge of surrender, when Carthage decided to enter the war. Now that the Egyptians had weakened the Greeks, Carthage had no problems securing victory on the battlefield.

Then something unexpected happened (in reality, due to a crash and restart of the game), all the Egyptian armies on the mainland suddenly vanished due to a great plague, and Carthage was left as the sole possessor of Greek Cyrenaica. While initially Callicrates saw this as a terrible tragedy, he soldiered on, re-declaring war on Greek Cyrenaica and annexing their final territory, which had to be left by Carthage. Stategically, this actually worked out better for Egypt since it created a buffer zone between Egypt and the Rebels on the Egyptian mainland. (see below photo of the aftermath of the War of Greek Cyrenaica)


While Callicrates wasn't one to sit around and watch the world pass him by, he next set his sites on the last remaining province in Greece, Macedonia. While the Romans and Seleucids were conspiring to divide Macedonia land, they failed to realize that the Egyptians had a sizable Army and Navy in which to continue to launch assaults, especially against weak and leaderless (AI) nations. The Egyptians were the first to defeat a Greek city state, therefore, they felt entitled to as much of the spoils of war than any other nation. Had it not been for an unfortunate civil war at home, the Macedonian mainland would have turned to the familiar Egytian colors long ago. Thus, Macedonia was quickly defeated and erased from the face of the ancient earth.

In the year 510 AVC, the great Callicrates passed on to the after life and was succeeded peacefully by Manetho Setnid of the prominant Setnid family. What direction will M. Setnid take the country in? It is anybody's guess. However, one thing is for sure, Egypt remains strong and will make beneficial ally, or feared opponent, in the struggle for ultimate control of the known world.
 
Pax25 said:
As the year 499 AVC came and went, the King of Egypt, Callicrates, continued to preside over the worst civil war in the nation's history. The Egyptian Rebels Army currently numbered 81,000 to Egypt's 63,000, however, their navy was non-existent. Therefore, the Rebels continued to dominate the Egyptian mainland, however, the Egyptians maintained their strongholds in the Greek Islands, Greece, and Asia Minor. (see below photo of Egyptian Rebels strongholds)


Unlike the early years of the civil war, these past years were confined to small amphibious landings by small Rebel raiding parties, when they managed to build a ship, which were swiftly put down by the Egyptians. This was promoted by the curious Seleucid Empire who continued trading wood with the Rebels, however, instead of causing problems for the Egyptians, this lead to easy seizures of Rebel ships that were added to growing Egyptian Navy of 38 ships. Currently, with such Egyptian dominance over the seas, the Rebels cannot muster a knock out blow. On the flip side, the Egyptians can't field an army large enough to defeat the Rebels and their superior forces. In fact, no country of the ancient world has dared confront the Egyptian Rebels.

Thus, Callicrates turned to diplomacy at the turn of the century. Rumors circled that a larger nation would try and capitlize on his plight, however, these rumors were brushed off by Callicrates, since little did his potential enemies know that they were still able to field a large army, which no country would want to face alone. With Carthage and the Seleucid Empire remaining silent, Callicrates welcomed a diplomat from Rome and agreed to a non-agression treaty since Rome was dealing with its own civil war. Callicrates then waited for someone to a make a move. (see below photo of Egyptian strongholds)


This move never came, therefore, as planned Egypt quickly went on the offensive against Greek Cyrenaica in 499 AVC, who had declared its independence from the Egyptian Rebels. The war was going extremely well for Egypt, and the Greeks were on the verge of surrender, when Carthage decided to enter the war. Now that the Egyptians had weakened the Greeks, Carthage had no problems securing victory on the battlefield.

Then something unexpected happened (in reality, due to a crash and restart of the game), all the Egyptian armies on the mainland suddenly vanished due to a great plague, and Carthage was left as the sole possessor of Greek Cyrenaica. While initially Callicrates saw this as a terrible tragedy, he soldiered on, re-declaring war on Greek Cyrenaica and annexing their final territory, which had to be left by Carthage. Stategically, this actually worked out better for Egypt since it created a buffer zone between Egypt and the Rebels on the Egyptian mainland. (see below photo of the aftermath of the War of Greek Cyrenaica)


While Callicrates wasn't one to sit around and watch the world pass him by, he next set his sites on the last remaining province in Greece, Macedonia. While the Romans and Seleucids were conspiring to divide Macedonia land, they failed to realize that the Egyptians had a sizable Army and Navy in which to continue to launch assaults, especially against weak and leaderless (AI) nations. The Egyptians were the first to defeat a Greek city state, therefore, they felt entitled to as much of the spoils of war than any other nation. Had it not been for an unfortunate civil war at home, the Macedonian mainland would have turned to the familiar Egytian colors long ago. Thus, Macedonia was quickly defeated and erased from the face of the ancient earth.

In the year 510 AVC, the great Callicrates passed on to the after life and was succeeded peacefully by Manetho Setnid of the prominant Setnid family. What direction will M. Setnid take the country in? It is anybody's guess. However, one thing is for sure, Egypt remains strong and will make beneficial ally, or feared opponent, in the struggle for ultimate control of the known world.
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wow that's an interesting and long civil war :eek:
 
New Patch

There is a patch out for VV which promises to fix all of our main complaints of the campaign, Heir deaths, civil war lengths, civil war crashes.

The tragic irony of this is the Paradox Team cannot guarantee that the patch will be compatible with previous saves....like our saved campaign.

So if someone wants to be the guinea pig and see if they can play previous saves with the patch then by all means. Be warned that if it does not work you will more than likely have to reinstall Vae Victus or the whole game.

But if the patch is not compatible, or if noone wants to go thru the hastle of a possible reinstall, we will just stick with the original and use the patch next campaign.
 
Selcuia Imperium

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Selucia is what one might call a phoenix. It has risen from the ashes, and has become greater then never before. It has risen from a nation barely hanging on to a Empire. Emporor Antiochus rules lands as far west as Greece, as far east as Partha, and as far north as the Bosprus, a field of yellow. Selucia first war of Greek unification was to liberate the remainder of Greece from Macadon. She then turned toward Pontus and Bospran, both of which will be liberated next session. Armenia has retained its independence on the whim of Emporor Antiochus, he is fond of the hardy people. Once a new Emporor rises to the throne we will just have to see what suits him. The Seleucids being the good people they are, are friends with everyone from Rome to Egypt to Egyptian Rebels. When the Emporor looks onto Rome he sees the future, he looks at these people and pictures them with a empire ruling all of the Med. Sea. He sees Egypt as a dying breed, having been exiled to islands, he believes they will just fade into history. Selucia and Egypt are the last Brothers of Alexander. When one might look at Selucia you would expect a army of unimaginable size, the true army is only about 30,000. But alas, it grows every day at record speeds, the Imperial Navy pumps out a new ship 4 months. If this rate keeps up it will be un-challengeable besides its Roman friends who are excellent war makers. The economy pulls in about 15 a month off its vast empire and even that is growing. Selucia has never had such a bright looking Future. The question is will the brothers of Alexander side with the Children of Ptolemy or the Children of Aeneas and Romulus?
 
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Going to Try Patch

I'm going to give the patch a try on my saved games. Normally, Paradox's patches don't affect my saved games.
 
Upgraded to 2.1

I just upgraded to 2.1 and tested the multiplayer save that I have. The game worked fine as far as I could tell.

Most significantly, since the new patch doesn't allow civil wars to drag on for more than five years, my civil war ended right away (since the end date had already passed) and my land was restored to me and not the Rebels. Personally, I think this is a just result considering it was a bug that caused my civil war to occurr in the first place.

My vote is for 2.1.
 
Pax25 said:
I just upgraded to 2.1 and tested the multiplayer save that I have. The game worked fine as far as I could tell.

Most significantly, since the new patch doesn't allow civil wars to drag on for more than five years, my civil war ended right away (since the end date had already passed) and my land was restored to me and not the Rebels. Personally, I think this is a just result considering it was a bug that caused my civil war to occurr in the first place.

My vote is for 2.1.
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Wow. Bravo sir. I will upgrade as well.

P.S. Check your yahoo messenger Pax
 
Tested a Single Player Game

Furthermore, I just tested the Single Player game I have saved where I am also playing Egypt. The game works fine, however, in this game a civil war broke out immediately since all of my government backed a different heir.
 
Test

Test the save that you have Shel after you upgrade and let me know if you get the same results.
 
Everyone get the Patch

We are upgrading to 2.1 so everyone download the patch before Wednesday.
 
New World Order

Heeeeeeees baaaaaaack. With the new patch Egypt is back in the game. This should be interesting.

P.S. If anyone wants to join our campaign just post here. Any country not listed on the first post is available.
 
Carthage: Brighter Days 2.1

I've installed 2.1 and my Civil War has ended to. And I got a mysterious 41 gold in tribute. Must have been from all those disloyal scum trying to buy their way back into favor.
 
New Tab

The patch added a tab that pops up when you are able to colonize a province. Gone are the days of you having to click on every freakin border province to check civ rating and pop. Oh hells yes.
 
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