Plan Z Failure

[piratefish]

I have played at least 2 games now where the German Plan Z event fails to fire.

After checking the event, it appears to be set for triggering in July 1935 and, of course, is not random. However, in both instances where the Plan Z failed to fire, the Anglo-German Naval Treaty was never triggered either. Is that a prerequisite for the Plan Z event to fire? And if so, why? In real life, the German Plan Z was not at all predicated on any agreement Germany had with the United Kingdom nor any other country.

Does anyone have more info about the particulars of this event? I love the idea of having it in the game, but I do not really know how to read all of the "programming" language in the event file (let alone how to alter many of the lines).

Thanks, and Happy Holidays to all!

 

[unmerged(149120)]

I've got the same problem, it worked before the latest patch, but now the Plan Z does not fire.

 

[Julle64]

I quickly checked the event files and the "Naval Treaty with UK" seems to be a prerequisite. It should trigger in June 1935 and you must approve it. There also seems to be a requirement for the "Naval Treaty with UK" and that is the "Conclusion of the London Naval Disarmament Conference", which should be untriggered. It's untriggered by another event called "Negotiations at the London Naval Conference".

To make the story clearer, after October 1934 there is an event called "Negotiations at the London Naval Conference" and if the treaty is accepted (75 % chance) there will be no "Naval Treaty with UK" and no Z-Plan.

 

[piratefish]

That's hosed. So there is only a one in four chance of the Plan Z happening? I did not realize that historically the German Z Plan hinged upon the London Naval Conference outcome. Here I always thought it was entirely a German-driven plan, independent of the affairs of other nations.

Stupid me...stupid history books.

 

[Julle64]

That's hosed. So there is only a one in four chance of the Plan Z happening? I did not realize that historically the German Z Plan hinged upon the London Naval Conference outcome. Here I always thought it was entirely a German-driven plan, independent of the affairs of other nations.

Stupid me...stupid history books.

I think there was one error in that propability which I noticed later. "Conclusion of the London Naval Disarmament Conference" must also be approved by USA and Japan. There's only 5 % chance that Japan will approve it.

 

[piratefish]

That's better, but still somewhat hosed. The German Z Plan should have nothing whatsoever to do with the outcome of other nations' treaties. It was a national event independent of anything the naval powers of that day were doing.

I may not be a historian, but I do know that much.

Also, the fact that Germany does not have a choice of whether or not to allow some nations into the Axis is backward, too. I don't get choices on multiple historical events that were definitely not a given, nor were they predicated upon the outcome of extranational events.

I call BS!