Please Don't Prohibit Immorality

[Vernichtere]

Also some important points about cruelty and evil in general.

The first point is warfare as such. It's impossible not to loot at all for a army in the time period. The logistics was bad and the bearucracy was barely existing. Often there was barely such a thing as a currency you can use everywhere. Looting was part of the payment, even more kings often not payed.

The other point is that we play something like a immortal state with the interests of the ruling class in the long term. The goal is of course to push in the direction of developing a early stage capitalism.

For this you need accumulation. Slavery was one way to get in the short term. Of course you can go for long term, but there are many states around. Often without short term, there is no long term. You maybe need slavery on Haiti to earn money for your wars in Lorraine or to bribe the nobility. Of course it's evil, but it's not like you play humanity as a whole.

 

[treb]

In the off chance that this is actually true and not something you just made up I will refrain myself from further response, less I end up accidentally making fun of a disabled child, and simply wish you a good night.

Why would I lie? It was the single worst thing to ever happen to me. If anything I wish I was lying about it. Would have saved me a lifetimes worth of trauma in the space of 24 months. In a way I am glad of it though, getting poisoned for 18 months after getting radiation sickness from 12 weeks of being irradiated daily gives you some perspective. Call me what you like, you can do nothing to me that even compares to it. Water off a ducks back.

 

[Imperialismo]

Still, comically fun to read.

 

[treb]

Was I at least entertaining? I always aim to put on a show

 

[Fawr]

One of my biggest disappointments with Victoria 3 was how curated the mechanics were to allow any whacky, immoral, and yet historically accurate things you could do, especially considering the time frame.

And learning that the developers didn't even allow the morally questionable things to be *modded* into the game was extremely disappointing.

Games like Crusader Kings and Rimworld are loved partially because of the absolutely terrible things you're allowed to do like building incestuous dynasties, farming human skin, or committing genocides for the memes.

It is frustrating in a sandbox game where so much freedom is possible, to find out some terrible actions that make sense to be impossible.

So please follow Crusader Kings and allow the most terrible and despicable decisions.

Edit: If you're new in this thread, I would stick to the first pages. A group of moralists are harassing anyone who'd disagree and shouting racism. It's quite exhausting.

Edit 2: Okay, well, this got ugly (Totally unexpected). If you enjoy a bit of drama and don't mind your IQ dropping a couple notches, read on. Page 4 and 8 are especially entertaining. Page 17 has a comment by me that sums up the disagreements if you want a TL;DR.

If the devs/admins want to lock this thread, I don't blame y'all. Go right ahead

I think it was CK3 that had a delay in purchasing in Australia due to the content not being approved. I'd like to avoid that in future.