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I have an idea here, but it depends on what future is suited for Bohemia in Interregnum: As of yet I've played till 17th century with Byzantium, and BOH exists as a 1-prov nation with a generic monarch, but there is a quite strong Romanist Bohemia, allied with Hungary.

But.

If somehow Bohemia was swallowed, the Polish rebellion of (as you said) around 1630 could as well be a Czech-Polish rebellion, for example under the brilliant command of Wallenstein, and, on the Polish side, Stefan Czarniecki - both of them very good leaders... The two nations would be made as one, western Slavic, country (something like Ruś in the East), or be some kind of confederation...
What do you think?

Edit: and these are the events that I wrote just now - destruction of Poland in 1530...
Code:
event = {
	id = 514101 
	random = no
	country = POL
	trigger = { monarch = 04115 } 
	name = "Poland partitioned!"
	desc = "The civil war that ravaged the country for the last 6 years has destroyed all centres of authority and depopulated our country. There is almost nothing left to take, but our enemies use the situation to grab Polish land for themselves nevertheless!"
	date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1530 }

	action_a = {
		name = "The White Eagle will rise again... Someday..."
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = HUN value = 316 } #Most of these *just in case* Poland somehow had these...
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = HUN value = 315 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = HUN value = 314 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = HUN value = 317 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = VOL value = 298 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = VOL value = 297 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = VOL value = 292 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = VOL value = 293 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = VOL value = 300 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = LAT value = 302 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = LAT value = 301 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = LAT value = 303 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = LAT value = 291 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 514102 } #Hungary annexes Krakow

	}
}
event = {
	id = 514002
	random = no
	country = HUN
	trigger = { event = 514001 }
	name = "The partition of Poland"
	desc = "The civil war in Poland resulted in absolute destruction of Polish authority over the lands. Let's take what falls into our hands so easily!"

	action_a = {
		name = "Yes!"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = inherit which = POL } #perhaps they could as well get core(s) for Polish prov(s)?
		command = { type = vp value = 25 } 
	}
}
event = {
	id = 514003
	random = no
	country = VOL
	trigger = { event = 514001 }
	name = "The partition of Poland"
	desc = "The civil war in Poland resulted in absolute destruction of Polish authority over the lands. Let's take what falls into our hands so easily!"

	action_a = {
		name = "Yes!"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = vp value = 25 } 
	}
}
event = {
	id = 514004
	random = no
	country = LAT
	trigger = { event = 514001 }
	name = "The partition of Poland"
	desc = "The civil war in Poland resulted in absolute destruction of Polish authority over the lands. Let's take what falls into our hands so easily!"

	action_a = {
		name = "Yes!"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = vp value = 25 } 
	}
}
 
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A very very good idea, but we need to remember that if Bohemia lives on it can get events that give it Polish culture and cores, enabling this storyline to occur through other means.

Bohemia should not exist with Romanist Bohemia as well. I have realised how this can occur and altered the revolt.txt file.

Finally, this event and the triggered bits are OK, but there needs to be an 'out'. Nothing players hate more than forced dismemberment of their own country (like the forced end of Lithuania to Poland in vanilla).

I want this Polish-Czech 'commonwealth' to be powerful. enough to strike deep into the heart of a player's blob and keep the game thrilling past the reformation. :D
 
MattyG said:
Someone is also working on Aberration?

all history buffs pay homage to predecesors :D; no worries ,i would have said the same thing if i would have been in your shoes ;)
 
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Emperor_krk said:
I have an idea here, but it depends on what future is suited for Bohemia in Interregnum: As of yet I've played till 17th century with Byzantium, and BOH exists as a 1-prov nation with a generic monarch, but there is a quite strong Romanist Bohemia, allied with Hungary.

But.

If somehow Bohemia was swallowed, the Polish rebellion of (as you said) around 1630 could as well be a Czech-Polish rebellion, for example under the brilliant command of Wallenstein, and, on the Polish side, Stefan Czarniecki - both of them very good leaders... The two nations would be made as one, western Slavic, country (something like Ruś in the East), or be some kind of confederation...
What do you think?

ting this to real history i think the top moment for poland was the siege of viena when i think ( sobiesky was then or i mix them up?) could have used certain influences or been in real position of making demands; well we have no ottos and austria however technically there is still the desaustrous council of boyars that cpmpleatlly decentralized poland and those same polish boyars helped at its own destruction;
how about an event that the great polish king in 16th century( i am very bad with names :rolleyes: ) makes a genocide of nobility and thei independent habits :D

also an intreasting aspect that COULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING( at least ideologically like marx was for marxism, jejejejej) is the republic of batavia :D ; that would definatelly give flavour; imagine poland starting from a revoltee and then gaining cores and cultures due its FEDERATIVE state that in this mod would come in EFFECT before the united states proclamation of independence "flavour" :D


thinking more around the lines where the society in poland has had enough of non stop political fragmentation and a great leader like "ziko" or "che" comes to the aid of the monarch; and then all neighbours would get events where they get rr due to public opinion just like they did on the reformation; lets call it the second reformation or the fact that there is a "polish revolution" instead of the french one; personally i would prefer a walachian revolution :rofl:
;)
 
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Finally, this event and the triggered bits are OK, but there needs to be an 'out'. Nothing players hate more than forced dismemberment of their own country (like the forced end of Lithuania to Poland in vanilla).
Aye. But should this 'out' way mean giving up no provs at all, or leaving a Poland cut down to, say, 1-2 provs? As I see it, the latter way would be better, with replacement of the inheritance event with a vassalising one. No-one would get a core on Krakow, the only province Poland would have, and Poland would get a relation boost with all her neighbours (so that nobody wants to attack her - as she would be in an alliance with Hungary, I guess noone would dare :D). Then, the player could try to, exempli gratia, get a coastal province and try some colonising (;)).

Then would come a time of a 'vegetation' of some kind, if you know what I mean. Poland would have Hungarian kings as her rulers (or Volhynian - we've got to remember that all that crap with anarchy and seceding provinces could be avoided if in 1523 Poland chose option B or C) until somewhere around 1630, when the revolution would come.
how about an event that the great polish king in 16th century( i am very bad with names :rolleyes:) makes a genocide of nobility and thei independent habits :D
I like this idea :D. An absolutist 16th century Poland would be cool :cool: :D. And yeah, afterwards (revoultion times) what I had meant from the beginning of the idea was that Poland-Bohemia become a centralised, democratic republic. Of sorts :rofl: .



EDIT: my work on Poland will be delayed for some 2 weeks - I'm going to a place where I'll be completely cut off from the computer, not to mention the Internet. So, please expect my return to work about August 15th. I'd just like to ask that you post any new ideas you'd like me to implement in the future :)...
 
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Poland probably gets swallowed early on (but from a balance point-of-view, hopefully not by Hungary!), but can emerge later to become a major power. I like this idea a lot.

If Poland gets swallowed by the TO, they are all set up to rebel during the TO's troubled 17th century. A strong TO will be able to crush them, a weaker one may rather get beaten up by Poland. Maybe we could develop the Polish side of this further.
 
Well, no-one has been taking care of this for the last, like, 2 or 3 months... I suppose I will start working on this again once the new map for AGCEEP and Interregnum is finished... Of course, Varcislaus, if you wish, you can always contribute by helping with ideas for monarchs/leaders/events/coding of all that stuff... ;)
 
We are all just waiting on the new map, it seems.

But, there's no reason that event schemes can't be written out: key events, dates, text etc.

Making monarch lists would be awesome.
 
MattyG said:
We are all just waiting on the new map, it seems.

But, there's no reason that event schemes can't be written out: key events, dates, text etc.

Making monarch lists would be awesome.

The new map will make a huge difference here. At the moment we have lots of potential powers fighting for limited space: Poland, TO, Bohemia, Halych-Volhynia and (to some extent) the Cossacks all expect their heartland to be in northern central Europe. The playground is only big enough for about two of them, and as a result the Cossacks seem to be the only ones to prosper, with most of the rest being taken by Hungary or even Bavaria. With more provinces we'll be able to give this battleground much more nuance and give each of the factions a fighting chance.