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Your approach to the game is a bit different to mine. You seem to get great enjoyment out of projecting power and asserting yourself vis-a-vis your computer opponents. I'm not too concerned about it. :)
- well, afterall this is a game about empire building and dynasty propagation... Frankly i just cant see any strong leader willingly going to foreign court in order to humiliate himself. Hence why i personally restricted chinese interactions to east only. I just could not stand seeing byzantine emperors selling their relatives as concubines and eunuchs to foreign heathens.

By the way, if you do find a way to make the Chinese emperor come kowtow to the player then please let us know. :p
- id love to:( IMO here should be events to adress the fact that you are the one who invaded China and installed their current emperor so now you are the big cheese all around eurasia.:D
 
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Short story: From the CK2 end of the epic multiplayer mega campaign which is currently in the modding phase for it's Victoria 2 stage. I was playing Aquitania, which is renamed Imperium Romanum for somewhat complex lore reasons (later renamed Aquitania again). There was also an absolutely massive player Persia in the east. Strict measures were taken to limit excessive powergaming and blobbing among players, and edits are made to make the game more historically plausible, interesting and lore friendly between each game, provided there is an understanding among the players, usually involving the release of certain nations, either as independent or sometimes just vassals.

For those who like reading: The Holy Roman Empire was dissolved in a war (Poetically named the War of the Eagles) between the Holy Roman Empire and Aquitania a couple of centuries prior, both claimants to the Roman heritage. It ended with a decisive Aquitanian victory and forced the HRE to dissolve, destroyed the ruling Premyslid dynasty and allowed the Karlings in Paris to ascend to the throne, taking up the mantle of the Frankish empire with Aquitanian support - effectively a puppet to the new, true Roman Empire based in Bordeu under the Occitan Gellona dynasty. We also have a Karling King of England, a Cornish Kingdom of Anorgwen, a regular old Byzantine Empire, although revived after having been destroyed by mongols in the 11th century and restored 150 years later with help from Aquitania. We also have Myklavia, ruled by a jewish russian dynasty that was put in power by the Khazars, centuries before. Then we have the Estonian culture, jewish Republic of Maavald, created with the help of the Myklavians and we have the Finno-ugric Kingdom of Mordovia, another jewish kingdom, and the not played Finno-ugric jewish kingdoms of Nenetsia and Miskozia and the Moslem (Zikri I believe) Sultanate of Andalusia and a Norse Kingdom of Venderike, based in Tunisia and loosely aligned with Andalusia. And then we have a player in Persia. In EU4 we have even more players, but that's not something I will discuss in here. In 1430, Aquitania is arguably the hegemonic great power of Europe, with a vast network of allies and extremely deep pockets alongside having one of the largest armies and definitely most advanced technology. Albion generally toes the line of whatever Aquitania says in knowledge that any protests will just get them crushed and the jews are far behind in technology and military strength to resist, while the Franks are too unstable to do anything against anyone significant, requiring Aquitania to police their vassals to stay in power.




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Really happy with my current game (769 Mercia). I beat Death at Chess, crowned by the pope (several times now), defeated 4 invasions to the British Isles, two against me personally, founded Britannia (and founder later became a saint).
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At this point iirc Charlemagne united all that territory but another dynasty ultimately formed Francia. They will later break out in civil war, and some kingdoms actually being independent for some time before being absorbed once again. During these times Umayyad sniped Most of Aquitaine and parts of France.
I was actually nervous about this time because there was actually a 5th invasion called after I formed Britannia but my ruler died and nothing happened after that.
Noregr became Miaphysite and somehow I ended up getting a matri marriage to the eventually king but the son who was my kin died in prison and his daughter died childless (I even went through the trouble of saving her from concubinage!) so nothing came of it.

I did have plenty of opportunities to take at least parts of Francia and the ERE but decided against pressing claims.
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Muhallabid/Abbasid have some sort of dueling rivalry in the sense that at certain points one is the more dominant in the kingdoms of Egypt, Africa and Arabia. I think that is keeping Abbasid from eating away at the ERE (although the ERE is pretty strong right now).
Through marriage shenanigans Ireland inherited Brittany. Francia was a big mess right before this with Germany, Aquitaine (which was really just Normandy + parts of Toulouse), and France freshly become independent after a war. Umayyad was in two wars with the Abbasid and ERE so I decided to call a GC for Aquitaine. Umayyad sued for peace really early because the Shia spawned for the second time (Sami) and would attack them for Andalusia (and later Aragon).

Sami later tried to invade me but because the AI is stupid I was able to win after only a few lopsided battles (they must have had only 70 boats so they would send about 6k at a time to be slaughtered by my 20 k army) and a few sieges to counties in Seville and Cordoba.
Really disappointed that Saxony converted to Christianity. Svipjod is still pagan but I think they only hold 2 sites. Really hoping they can boot Khazaria out of Denmark and reform. I kind of miss the invasions now lol.

I'm kind of wondering what to do now. I decided to suicide by scurvy so I could start out as a young ruler. I hardly ever got baptism events because my next ruler would be in their mid late 30s with a bunch of kids already. Monastic life was getting monotonous so this time I decided not to jump right away into the monastic order and do some old fashioned seduction. So far I don't have a son (well none that were revealed) and 4 daughters, 3 of whom are bastards. I was going to holy war Umayyad some more but now I think I'll at most take their French holdings. I'm regional power at this point. I don't want to cross the line into superpower yet.
 
If there hasn't been one yet, you could try becoming the HRE? I don't know if taking the Kingdom of Italy would cross the line into 'superpower' by your definition.
 
If there hasn't been one yet, you could try becoming the HRE? I don't know if taking the Kingdom of Italy would cross the line into 'superpower' by your definition.

I'm Britannia. So I'm guessing I'd have to take a good chunk out of Francia as well. That would definitely be overboard.
 
From the 769 start, you need: The empire of, or one kingdom in, Britannia/Hispania/Germania/Francia, and either Italy or Italia. So if you kept your current lands and added the Kingdom of Italy, you'd qualify. Again, that might still be too much for you, but just so you know.

https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Decisions

(It's only from the other start dates, or in a game where the HRE has previously existed, that you absolutely need to have central European land)
 
From the 769 start, you need: The empire of, or one kingdom in, Britannia/Hispania/Germania/Francia, and either Italy or Italia. So if you kept your current lands and added the Kingdom of Italy, you'd qualify. Again, that might still be too much for you, but just so you know.

https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Decisions

(It's only from the other start dates, or in a game where the HRE has previously existed, that you absolutely need to have central European land)
He would also need to be the only one of Italia, Germania, Hispania, and Britannia, as I recall.
 
I'm kind of wondering what to do now. I decided to suicide by scurvy so I could start out as a young ruler. I hardly ever got baptism events because my next ruler would be in their mid late 30s with a bunch of kids already. Monastic life was getting monotonous so this time I decided not to jump right away into the monastic order and do some old fashioned seduction. So far I don't have a son (well none that were revealed) and 4 daughters, 3 of whom are bastards. I was going to holy war Umayyad some more but now I think I'll at most take their French holdings. I'm regional power at this point. I don't want to cross the line into superpower yet.

Have the crusades started yet? In a recent game I had a lot of fun switching to my beneficiary every time I fought and won a crusade, leaving behind a trail of kingdoms and empires ruled by family members and uniting them all towards the end of the game.

I'm guessing you want to play around with your empire first but if you ever get bored of that it's a fun way to keep the narrative interesting.
 
Have the crusades started yet? In a recent game I had a lot of fun switching to my beneficiary every time I fought and won a crusade, leaving behind a trail of kingdoms and empires ruled by family members and uniting them all towards the end of the game.

I'm guessing you want to play around with your empire first but if you ever get bored of that it's a fun way to keep the narrative interesting.

What happens if you lose to a jihad though? Is it game over or do you switch to someone else?

Turns out taking Aquitaine was a mistake. With the Shia caliph's death, his event troops died with him. Now Umayyad is too weak to fight Francia and Francia is basically blobbing into Wallachia. Pagans are basically dead as any kind of threat.
 
If I recall correctly losing a jihad will make you a vassal. So no game over yet but unless you're very confident of your butt kissing skills you'll probably want to avoid that for now.

Looks like you may want to try practicing those skills on Francia for now. Try getting a non-aggression pact with them and maybe, just maybe, see if you can position your heir (or heirs' heir) in line to inherit their throne.
 
If I recall correctly losing a jihad will make you a vassal. So no game over yet but unless you're very confident of your butt kissing skills you'll probably want to avoid that for now.

Looks like you may want to try practicing those skills on Francia for now. Try getting a non-aggression pact with them and maybe, just maybe, see if you can position your heir (or heirs' heir) in line to inherit their throne.

I was going to abandon this save and go modded for stronger pagans but this is a good challenge. I've just gotten my third Shia uprising so who knows.
 
Oh man, I'm so glad I took @darryllavigne 's advice and continued on with this. It's been insane:
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First time ever getting Immortal on ironman/achievement save. I have at least 3 achievements this run: Saint, Self-Crown, Immortal. Since I have immortal I figure I'll keep him on hunting focus and hope for that too lol. (although I'm thinking I'll switch to another Crusader King after I form Outremer)
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Western Protectorate is out of control right now but at least Francia broke free. Btw I pressed a claim on Italy before switching because the ERE had a chance to inherit it. Turns out that was a good decision on my part.
 
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I wasn't involved with this AT ALL. I must have matri married my son because I gave my grandson a kingdom and my son left with him. I was going to make my son my next beneficiary in a crusade but apparently my (great?)grandson made him a bishop and next thing I knew he's the pope.

I finally formed Outremer. Now my Emperor is on par with my average pagan Emperor lol (he's immortal and can't join a lodge so I don't know how often I'd actually let him lead an army):
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I wasn't involved with this AT ALL. I must have matri married my son because I gave my grandson a kingdom and my son left with him. I was going to make my son my next beneficiary in a crusade but apparently my (great?)grandson made him a bishop and next thing I knew he's the pope.

I finally formed Outremer. Now my Emperor is on par with my average pagan Emperor lol (he's immortal and can't join a lodge so I don't know how often I'd actually let him lead an army):
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"Papa" ? :)
 
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lol yeah. I'm using a mod called Nomina Vera which is supposed to use the true names for titles/cultures/names based on the time period and region.

edit: I've gotten two more achievements this run. It took over 100 years on hunting focus + forbidden to lead armies but I finally got Great Hunter. I also got Not so bad, but my demesne did not have the plague at the time (I think there was smallpox in a lot of my demesne but not in my capital). There was a full blown epidemic in India though. I think it covered the entire subcontinent. This is remarkable (to me anyway) because it was the 4th spread of the plague and I've never seen secondary epidemics get that large before. I was worried that it would spread globally again.
 
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Back, playing this time to see how survivable the Redcoat Invasion would be. (Yes, I have every intent to make Uppland go away for pushing their luck with realm colors.)

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Not 100% clean, did technically do a console command kill of the original enemy leader. Even then they're still not the brightest, piling in while the initial batch of redcoats were fleeing the first battle, hence the 52k of the invaders dead. Already have Red being used as a prefix for a slaughterhouse of a battle way back during the Norse invasion of Ohio, so no idea what nickname to give the Battle of Westport. This game's mainly a test run for an AAR, did good, Redcoats are the penciled-in ending.



Currently playing as Christine, First of Her Name of the Delawarean Empire and the Kingdom of Maryland. Commonly called 'the Holy', 41 years old, on the throne since October of 2809 after her father Franklin passed away of cancer. Not exactly the brightest but a perfectly serviceable ruler.


Her children by her first husband {Edward Hollidaysburg}
-Joshua, current heir, 22. Cruel and ambitious, m. Gerlinde fon Welland
-Laura, 16. Sociable and scholarly, potential spouse to be found after the current Rust Cultist uprising is dealt with

Her children by her second husband Elon Gaspé
-Eve, 12. Prone to stuttering and fussiness
-Henriette, twin to Eve. Lazy and fussy.
-{Jennifer}, died from rabies in 2814 at the age of 2
 
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