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I'm playing my second game - in my first I was horribly crushed as the English by the French. I am learning about the benefits of Trade and exploration, as I am playing Portugal this time. My question is this - the Portugese have a port in the colony of Azores, but whenever I send my explorers there, they refuse to dock in the port. They always end up in the sea outside of Azores. The Cape down south, in Togo, in Algiers - these ports I can dock in. I'm docking in the ports in my new colonies. But not the Azores, and I have no idea why. Can anyone help?

Thanks!

By the way, I am finding it extremely difficult to make enough money to support expansion. Is it better to run up and down South America creating level 1 Trading posts? Or should I try to build up colonies? Is Africa a better option for the Portugese?

Thank you again!

-Scorp
 
I would love to give you sound, definite advice, but, unfortunately, I am rather new to the game myself.

I would have to say that if you are in a land grabbing race, then yes-you should do your best to get as many locations as possible, and then build them up. OTherwise, I would say build up to cities, and then start to conquer the remaining areas! :)

That is just my experience, but I still have LOTS more playing to do before I will be able to give a more concrete response than that-sorry.

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Are you sure that you're actually clicking on the Azores when you try to send the explorer there and not on the water just outside the Azores?

To get money, place trade posts in Brazil, the African coast, and then India and the East Indies. When you can afford it, build up a few colonies in strategic locations to defend your trade posts in case of war and to get new COTs.
 
If you are financially unsecure, make sure you don't thread on Spanish South America. Keep Brazil, but that's it, 'cause when the Treaty of (excuse my Spelling) Tordesilla comes, Spain will take your trading post and level 1 colonies without an itch.

Just some observations
 
You must be missing the hot spot for the Island as opposed to that for the seas zone. On a related note, does Portugal have to worry about those natives in his African trading posts? Should he take them out? They're mostly aggressive.
 
Thanks! (Problem in the Azores)

I am absolutely positive that I cannot dock at Azores. I saved the game and purposefully tested it, time and time again. I tried every single pixel on that port, and I made sure that the cursor changed every time. Yet, the movement arrow never showed docking, and the ships always stopped outside of Azores.

I have no clue why this is happening.

Thanks,

-Scorp
 
The cursor changed? You mean it turned into a port cursor? I've found that not to be trustworthy. It will sometimes show you the port cursor but the ship doesn't go into port. Have you tried holding down the shift key while right clicking on the Azores?
 
I seem to recall having some trouble with the Azores as well, but I was able to dock there. I think it took some determined clicking.

Hold your cursor over the port anchor until the anchor is highlighted. Then right click. That should work.
 
Thanks, I will try it, and let you know if it works.

By the way, for the person above who spoke about South America - how can I tell what is going to be a Spanish province and what is going to be Portugese? Do I have to wait for the Treaty to go into effect? I would like to think that all my hard work is not gone to waste because the Spainiards are going to walk all over me now...

Thank you!

-Scorp
 
They will all 'belong' to Spain except Brazil which was 'given' to Portugal (at least historically speaking, but I assume the game will do as much)
 
Ok, I figured out the problem, thanks for all your help - it seems that the port of Azores (the actual port symbol) is counted as water. No matter where I clicked on it, the ship always headed for water. However, when clicking on the actual island, the ship headed for port.

Thanks!

-Scorp
 
As to Brazil, if you click on the colonization button that puts you in the mode where you can place colonists and trading posts and then look at provinces in the Americans, Africa, and far East, you will see that many have shields on them. The provinces with Spanish shields belong to Spain according to the Treaty of Tordesillas and those with Portugues shields are allocated to Portugal. This doesn't actually restrict other nations from placing colonies and trade posts in these provinces, but Spain and Portugal can take them over without declaring war.
 
Regarding the Treaty of Tordesillas. What exactly is meant by 'take over'? Can the Spanish/Portugese troops just waltz into the province without having to fight other troops in the province? Or do they have to fight it out? The only thing the treaty does is eliminate the need for a DoW with respect to those provinces? If Spain and England are already at war the treaty doesn't have any effect between Spain and English possessions? Exactly which province fall under the treaty? Are non-catholic possessions affected?
 
The Pope basically divided the world in half and gave the New World to Spain and the Far East to Portugal. It was modified a bit to account for the fact that Spain already had a presence in the Phillipines and Portugal in Brazil; each country got to keep control over those territories. Otherwise, if it was in the Far East, it belonged to Portugal; if in the New World, to Spain. The purpose, of course, was to ensure Catholic domination of the new territories, and Spain and Portugal were the only nations actively exploring at the time. (France, another good Catholic country, wasn't too happy about the Treaty when it got around to exploration a few decades later.)

In the game, my understanding it that the Treaty relieves Spain and Portugal of the necessity of declaring war (and removes the associated stability decline) before invading a province in their sphere of influence. Thus, Spain can freely invade any territory in the New World, except Brazil, regardless of who owns it. The same with Portugal in the Far East, except the Phillipines. Spain and Portugal can even invade each other's colonies, if one has encroached in the sphere of the other.

The Treaty only removes the need for a DOW. Spain and Portugal still have to fight and conquer the provinces.
 
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