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Modern Angel

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I'm immensely interested in the Byzantium project and I see a lot of code has already been written and posted.

My question is this: can I just cut and paste the code from the forum directly into the appropriate text file for Byzantine events? Or do I need to do something else?

Tips or a quick shooing to an appropriate thread are both equally acceptable. :)
 
And try not create too many events that has already been done. Strat with something new or we will have conflicting events.:D

Anyway welcome to the team.
 
Oh...

Heh... you really do NOT want me coding. No way, no how. I'm happy to give suggestions and whatnot; I have a Religious Studies degree, specializing in early Christianity in the Near East.

I'm actually, right now, more interested in exactly HOW I can take the events which the Byz. Team have already coded and sticking them into a GC which I have on my end.

Me=Codetard
 
Hey thats exellent. We have been looking for a fellow that could come up with ideas for religious events. We have been sorely lacking in that department since we are more the war and areas and such kind of types.:D

And I didn´t mean to discourage you. We simply seem to have bucketloads of events that seem to recreate the Roman Empire.
 
I Can Sure Try

There was obviously history involved with my studies, but I mainly spent my time sorting out why people went on pilgrimages and why Athanasius disliked Arianism so much... all that esoteric stuff.
My area of any sort of real historical expertise when it comes to Byzantine Christianity starts to taper off at around the mid-13'th century.
So, cut code from thread which has code I like, paste to text file which already exists?
 
My particular interest is in the evolution of late Roman institutions and ideas in the successor states, and their interactions with the continuing state in the east. What's your take on the Ramsey MacMullen books?

We're currently trying to think up a good religious heresy. I've been pushing for a resurgence of hesychasm, since it was the last great religious dispute. But it's not once to stir the passions, really. And then there's the possibility of Lutheranism or Calvinism making inroads. So, please, share your thoughts.

Also, you can email me at louiskoplin@yahoo.com, and I'll send you the zip of most of the completed events.

driftwood
 
Re: I Can Sure Try

Originally posted by Modern Angel
There was obviously history involved with my studies, but I mainly spent my time sorting out why people went on pilgrimages and why Athanasius disliked Arianism so much... all that esoteric stuff.
My area of any sort of real historical expertise when it comes to Byzantine Christianity starts to taper off at around the mid-13'th century.
So, cut code from thread which has code I like, paste to text file which already exists?

Well driftwood has the latest set of events so you can always ask him to e-mail them to you. After that it´s just cut them into the major_byz file.
 
Re: Re: I Can Sure Try

Originally posted by Idiotboy


Well driftwood has the latest set of events so you can always ask him to e-mail them to you. After that it´s just cut them into the major_byz file.

No, no, no ... we're teaching ourselves good habits, and the events are nicely split among the proper files (flavor vs. major, byz vs. tur vs. ven, etc).

driftwood
 
Re: Re: Re: I Can Sure Try

Originally posted by driftwood


No, no, no ... we're teaching ourselves good habits, and the events are nicely split among the proper files (flavor vs. major, byz vs. tur vs. ven, etc).

driftwood

Yeah well whatever. I didn´t get the events from you until I had already made an answer.
 
Are people actually getting my emails with the zips? My Yahoo account is full, so I'm only pretty sure (not completely sure) that the outgoing emails are actually being sent. Sadly, to buy a larger mailbox you need to have a non-Yahoo mailbox. Would they prefer I set up on Hotmail?

driftwood
 
Driftwood,

I (for one) got the .zip you sent me.

In my first game I invaded Trebazon in 1420, got 'Pretender to the Throne' in 1421 while my army was abroad, so I put Mustafa to the sword. That december the ungrateful bastard Murad DoW on me and we got slaughtered to the last man. Then in 1424 we declined vassalage the City of Men's Desire fell 30 years early.

Loved every minute of it.

My only question is should event 16000 action_c ("Execute Mustafa to please Murad") perhaps trigger something like:

# Treaty of 1424 #

event = {
id = xxxxx
trigger = {
OR = {
event = 16002
event = 16003
}
year = 1424
}
random = NO
country = BYZ
name = "Treaty of 1424"
desc = "With Mustaffa out of the way Murad rapidly consoladated his rule. To the dismay of Manuel, Murad viewed the execution of Mustaffa as little more than the obligation of a City State which owed him tribute. Murad saught to formalize the status of Byzantium as a vassal state. However, the Christian nations lobbied Manuel to resist Ottoman rule and a small contingant of Italian knights even offered help defend the ancient city against the Turks."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1424 }
offset = 180

action_a = { # Accept the Treaty
name = "Accept the Treaty, become Ottoman vassal"
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = TUR value = -200 }
command = { type = trigger which = 16005 }
command = { type = trigger which = 16006 }
}
action_b = { # Resist the ungratefull bastard!!!
name = "With the support of the West we crush the ungrateful bastard!"
command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 5000 }
command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 5000 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = TOS value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = MLO value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = PIS value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = MAN value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = PAR value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = GEN value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = ATH value = 50 }
}
}

This would replace 16004 if Mustaffa is executed.

Ideally the CAV unit would be created with a minor leader with a good Italian Crusader name. But I don't know if that would be possible.

Basically I'd like to extend the ahistorical choices in 16000 to give scenario in which Byzantium either becomes an Ottoman vassal and so secures a few decades in which to attempt to over throw the Turks (security at the cost of paying tribute) or, as in this event, buys itself a year and a little help (comprable to the level of help that the Ottoman revolts in 16000 provide).

This is my first event (and only my second post) so feel free to point out problems, stupidies and the like.

Cheers,

duckboy
 
I like the idea, but Murad was IRL a pretty easy-going guy, on especially good terms with Manuel. Perhaps starting relations between BYZ and TUR should be bumped into positive territory again to reflect this. At any rate, I doubt he'd really behave like that, although this is an alternative-history path, so that doesn't really matter.

I also feel bad making Byzantium a vassal in wartime situations, since there's no command to cause peace between two combatants. Why become a vassal if it doesn't buy you anything? Although admittedly if you execute Mustafa, you won't be in a war right away ...

BTW, can we consolidate some of the Byzantium threads? This is getting a bit out of hand.

driftwood
 
Originally posted by duckboy
Driftwood,
<snippage>
Ideally the CAV unit would be created with a minor leader with a good Italian Crusader name. But I don't know if that would be possible.
<snip>

duckboy

It should be possible. I think you'd have to add a dormant leader, and then have this event wake that leader.

Jacob Melzer