Questions about start dates and events

[[KPD]Fidel]

Hello everyone,

I have some of questions so here it goes:

1. What is a good start date for someone really wanting to role play the game? What I mean is which start date is the most fleshed out in terms of giving you a nice story with the help of event chains. I guess probably the start date of the books but I'd also like to know which start date predating the books would be good in that way since I'd really like to play with dragons .

2. I wanted to start with Aegons conquest however I was quite disappointed with the start date in terms of events. There is no event chain leading to the Field of Fire, Harrenhal burning, toppling Argilac the Arrogant, flying into the Veil and the Dornish basically disappearing and you having to give up the conquest of Dorne. There is no event to forge the Iron Throne, and your offspring doesn't seem to be scripted either (which seems like a critical mistake given how low the fertility of the conqueror was set).

Basically the conquest start date as Aegon seems like a blank slate at best. Now maybe I played it wrong and all those events could fire if I play it differently but basically that is my question: Is the start date meant to be this bare if I play as Aegon or did the events not fire?

 

[Zoomun]

Like in the base game you are supposed to create the story. Having events for everything you want would ruin this and make the game follow a story instead of making it. The point isn't to follow a script and get the same outcomes. The point is that you are changing the outcomes. Adding the events you want would make the game scripted and every game feel the same which nobody wants.

 

[[KPD]Fidel]

Sure but the pendulum swings both ways... I mean I conquered the whole thing and never got to pick the lords I wanted to have in charge, I never got to create the Iron Throne or lift the Baratheons up. I mean I get that it's not meant to be on rails... but no events at all? I always thought there would be at least some story elements.

 

[Toccs]

Are you sure you were playing in the Conquest bookmark and not the Bleeding Years? Because there are definitely events for a lot of the stuff you are talking about, burning Harrenhall, dealing with Argilac/legitimizing Orys, forging the Iron Throne and building King's Landing etc.

 

[[KPD]Fidel]

Are you sure you were playing in the Conquest bookmark and not the Bleeding Years? Because there are definitely events for a lot of the stuff you are talking about, burning Harrenhall, dealing with Argilac/legitimizing Orys, forging the Iron Throne and building King's Landing etc.

Yes I'm sure. Maybe I did it wrong? Is there a chance you could tell me what the requirements are for those events to fire?

 

[Schwarzherz]

I recommend to start as Aurion or Aegon if you like Dragonlords. Aegon has a more fleshed out story and Aurion is nice if you want to forge your own story.

 

[grzegorz444]

Yes I'm sure. Maybe I did it wrong? Is there a chance you could tell me what the requirements are for those events to fire?

For example, you mus't kill Argillac(or he must died during war - you can us cheat) to fire Orys event
You can build LK and Red Keep, establiish KG(via decisions) after stop conquest of westeros, there is a event after conquest 5 or 6 kingdoms

 

[[KPD]Fidel]

I recommend to start as Aurion or Aegon if you like Dragonlords. Aegon has a more fleshed out story and Aurion is nice if you want to forge your own story.

Well I did start with Aegon. Like I said, unfortunately none of the events fired. I was thinking of starting as Prince Daemon or maybe even Daemon Blackfyre. Basically I'd love a sort of clean slate but it feels kinda empty if you don't really have any story related events what so ever which is what happened to me on three tries with Aegon the conqueror.

For example, you mus't kill Argillac(or he must died during war - you can us cheat) to fire Orys event
You can build LK and Red Keep, establiish KG(via decisions) after stop conquest of westeros, there is a event after conquest 5 or 6 kingdoms

Well that's my problem. Where can I find the event numbers for field of fire etc.? Also I would just like to know what the specific criteria for these events are. I mean how on earth do I kill Argillac? I used a dragon like 3 times when I fought him, I fought him without it, I sieged and stormed his castle... nothing works. In the end he just goes into hiding. I never got the event to forge the Iron Throne. Nothing. So basically my question still remains: Which events are there specifically and what is the requirement to actually get them to fire.

 

[Schwarzherz]

I played an Aegon game to see for myself. Some of the events did not fire. Killing house Hoare, killing house Gardener, building the Iron Throne and I ended up with 2 Crowns of Winter. Giving the Stormlands and the daughter to Orys worked, but I killed Argillac in single combat (I think that is how it ment to be?)

No idea why, maybe version conflicts?

 

[[KPD]Fidel]

I played an Aegon game to see for myself. Some of the events did not fire. Killing house Hoare, killing house Gardener, building the Iron Throne and I ended up with 2 Crowns of Winter. Giving the Stormlands and the daughter to Orys worked, but I killed Argillac in single combat (I think that is how it ment to be?)

No idea why, maybe version conflicts?

Same issue here. Every time I use the dragon in the Reach it shows me a tag "field of fire" (if you use charinfo) yet it never fires. Same goes for House Hoare. I finally managed to kill Argillac and get the decision to name Orys but still. I think i'll report it in the bugthread.

 

[Schwarzherz]

Harrenhal isn't a popup event btw. If you deploy a dragon into it's siege it will become ruined automatically.

 

[[KPD]Fidel]

Harrenhal isn't a popup event btw. If you deploy a dragon into it's siege it will become ruined automatically.

Yeah I get that but I was wondering about the event that basically wipes out the Hoars. Is it there or do I simply have to kill them off some other way? Historically the siege of Harrenhal ended with Aegon using Balerion the black dread to burn Harrenhall to a crisp and melt it's towers and kill every member of the Hoar family within thereby wiping them out.

 

[Schwarzherz]

Yes I remember an event where you can decide to kill them all or to let em bent the knee.

 

[[KPD]Fidel]

And those are the events I'm trying to fire. Like I said I already have seen some marker for the field of fire but it doesn't seem to fire for some reason. There also has to be an event for Argillac as there is a follow up decision allowing you to raise up Orys. But like I already said none of these events seem to fire so I'd just like to know how to get them to fire.

 

[ramius3443]

Killing everyone in a single dragonstrike a la Harrenhal is scripted to happen only 20% of the time, when using Balaerion in the conquest start (not sure if specific to him, or just any dragon with enough martial). The “field of fire” modifier you see is the actually the flag for the “field of fire” event/decision having already fired; “field of fire” in this case just being the decision to use dragon in combat, rather than a specific “Reach” event.

 

[Anton V]

You can alwas start from year 8001/2 with Aegon as king - House Hoare and Gardner are wiped out, Orys Baratheon is Lord of Storm's End and there are the ongoing rebelions on the Iron Islands and Sisterton, plus you can continue the Conquest and get Dorne into the Kingdom.