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Hi,

I have made zillions of pics of Finnish leaders, tech teams and ministers I made some months ago. Real people, real pics of correct figures, no mistakes like we have in original set up. I'm bit slow to make them work with the game, so I'm asking could some1 assist me? In addition to my excellent skills in graphics, I'm also a great researcher and historian, so I can provide their skills etc. as I pretty much know some background from each of them. So, help I need would be to "code" them in the game.

A Couple of examples of my work in low-res collections:

In this first pic there are some ministers and leaders. In cases of Y.W. Puhakka, A.K. Cajander, Kivisalo, Voionmaa, Pitkäsilta, Nenonen and Aattela you can clearly see, that original pics are from totally different people than they are supposed to be. This goes also with Vilho Annala, even though the two look a bit alike, original photo is from fifties, when Annala looked older than in my version. While making this pic I also made a mistake, two Erkkos are same person, Juho Eljas Erkko.

vertailu1.jpg


Some new ministers and generals. Actually some the generals were colonels, or even lieutenant colonels, but were in command of divisions and brigades during the war. In Finland army there was no brigadier generals and officers could command units greater than their ranks were generally supposed, so it's safe to use them in hoi2 as generals.

v-uudet.jpg
 
TeutonburgerW said:
Nice work!

What's your problem, adding them to leaders and ministers file with so the new images appears in game?



Yes, that's my problem. I don't want to sound like an ass but if I even look at the excel files I'll get a massive headache...
 
Paradox used this image. There are four generals standing, from the left Nenonen, Mannerheim, Heinrichs and Talvela. Paradox used Talvela's image instead of Nenonen, which is a bit insulting, as general of artillery Nenonen was a skilled general and a developer of artillery doctrines in Finland. And if he had an idea to make things better he invented devices for it. Some of the things he created are still in use. A genious, perhaps.


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Looks real good! I hope someone will help you to put it together cause I'll sure as hell include it in my next Finland game!
 
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...if I even look at the excel files I'll get a massive headache

I guess you already know this, but it's best to change your Windows settings so that Notepad (or similar) is the default program to open .csv files, as Excell can sometimes alter some of the ;;;;;;;; that are vital.
 
The best way to mod this is to get the Open Office Suite. Use its calc program as a spreadsheet editor. It's very easy to manipulate. Just remember when you open a file with Open Office Calc, tell it that the semicolon, not the comma, is used as the separator. And for the pictures, replace the pictures with your own.

It's difficult to mod a csv file in excel.

The one drawback of Open Office Calc is that it will stick in quotes. To take out the quotes, re-open the file in Notepad and replace all the quote marks with nothing, re-save the file and it works like a charm!
 
Hi, sorry about the delay, but all kinds of things have kept me reserved. I had to do some work again as faulty memory ruined a pile of pics with strange lines etc. Luckily original photos and scans I have (hundreds) were usable in 90% of the cases.

So, don't worry, this is not another 'boast and run' project, but huge pile of work which I hope will be done before the Christmas.

I will probably release a 'just new graphics set' soon, for those who want better images for their Hoi2 Finland experience.

But, the project has escalated. I'm now considering to create a Real Finland Mod. This will change almost the whole thing. While Paradox version of Finland is ok, I want the whole truth.

No one term members of parliament no one has heard of after 1930's as wartime ministers with great skills. No nice social democrats as 'Princes of Terror'. No wrong spelling, wrong pics, wrong traits.

But historical accuracy. And spiffy pics.

Mannerheim was a great leader of war, but did he create tactics? Not that much, but these guys did:

a-techteams.jpg


Colonel Nihtilä was a true genius. He taught many of the leading Finnish generals in the military academy before he became Chief of operative department of the land force office in the General Staff. Finland owes much to his ideas.

Öhquist was ok too - sadly not as a front commander though. He created beautiful plans, but was in too much haste to see his plans in action. The result - dead Finns.

Funny thing in Hoi2 is that some of the leader names stays in my head. Like rear admiral Jülopova, a Sea Wolf. During my research I never found a name even close to him. This is a pic of him:

julo.jpg


Fishy or what? Anyway, I have these guys, who helped to keep Finland free in the hazardous Baltic Sea:

navymen.jpg



So this is what I've been up to. I have some ideas for new events, so if someone who knows how to write events wants to help it would be great.

See you soon.
 
TeutonburgerW said:
Wow!

Will it include a complete GFX-pack for Finland? Skin, model pics etc?

Events and such also?

Revised leaders and ministers?

Nice! Finland is one of the funniest minors to play. :)


I hope eventually it will. With complete GFX-pack I would need help, with skins etc.

Revised leaders and ministers will definitely be included. I'd say 90% background studies concerning leaders is done. I was unable to find data of all, even though I've been asking around in different Finnish WW2 forums. There will be about 30 new leaders for the army, 15 or so for the navy (Yes, for the few ships - but some old ones can't be identified and will be gone) and about 10 for the air force.

New ministers will be there. Here's a pic of the fascists, paternal autocrats. Not many Nazis, but some like Mauno Vannas, who had international fame as an professor of ophthalmology at his time. Few knows he was a leader of a small Finnish nazi party.

a-fascists.jpg
 
Yes, new information would be extremely nice.

Though I do think the author's usage of the word "fascists" and "nazi party" are quite incorrect. There were no fascists in Finland, let alone Nazis. The existing far-right movements were usually small and had only few resemblances with truely "fascist" and even "nazi" characteristics. Most, or all of them, were staunchly anti-Communist, but that was a very common phenomena at the time all across the world (and for a good reason). If one is to think about the quite large Lapua Movement, I must only say that that too was far from "fascist". It was a conservative anti-Communist movement, but nothing beyond that. Overall the general Finnish sympathy towards Nazis was very sparse, where as anti-Communist, and especially anti-Russian sentiment was and is almost universal.

So IMO it's quite wrong to call them fascists or nazis. In fact the vanilla term for fascist should be replaced with "far-right radical" (as opposed to left-wing radical) or something like that.
 
So IMO it's quite wrong to call them fascists or nazis. In fact the vanilla term for fascist should be replaced with "far-right radical" (as opposed to left-wing radical) or something like that.
Then what was Mussolini? Fascism is distinct from other rightist ideologies, and you can't really say that Nazism and Fascism are the same theoretically. (In practice however they operated similarly)

Staying on topic, what program did you use to put the pictures neatly in the background like that? Photoshop?
 
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Then what was Mussolini? Fascism is distinct from other rightist ideologies, and you can't really say that Nazism and Fascism are the same theoretically. (In practice however they operated similarly)

Staying on topic, what program did you use to put the pictures neatly in the background like that? Photoshop?

I know. I was originally going to type that maybe make the "Fascist" government type 1 notch away from "Nazism", but that'd still mean there'd probably be some other "Fascist" governments, than just Italy's, so I abandoned typing that.

Truely there was only one fascist government in the world and that was Italy under Mussolini (including the RSI). However the extensive use of the word by the Western media/propaganda machine has so thoroughly made the word stuck into peoples' heads, that they think everything far-right is "fascist", when often they are actually quite different from true fascism. No doubt Paradox's choice to use the word as a form of government for ALL far-right governments and ministers (with the latter having a lot of historical inaccuracies, such as making Pu Yi a fascist) in the game is a direct result from this.

But back on topic... In case anyone didn't notice, the last post before Snajper06's post this year, was in 2007, and the author of this mod was online for the last time in February 2009. So I suppose this mod is more or less dead. I PM'ed the author and asked him if he's still got the files for his mod, or if he's planning to work on them etc. but I don't expect a reply very soon. Too bad really.
 
Oh wow, I didn't even know this was two years old. :wacko: