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gweinel

gweinel

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Will be religion be presented like EU2?
I hope not. Maybe in EU2 was fair, but I don't think in the timespan of CK is a good choice?
If not is any information how religion will be handled?

Sorry if this have been mentioned before.

Konstantine
 
gweinel said:
Will be religion be presented like EU2?
I hope not. Maybe in EU2 was fair, but I don't think in the timespan of CK is a good choice?
If not is any information how religion will be handled?

Sorry if this have been mentioned before.

Konstantine
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REligion will be in. Provinces have a religion, and characters have one.
 
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I think you misunderstood what I said.
Of course I think religion should be in and it is a very important thing.
I just didn't like the connection of religion and technology in EU 2.
So, If someone is Catholic would have different tech advancenent than the Orthodoxe one?
If not handled this way then how religion will be in CK?

Sorry for the confusion

Konstantine
 
I'm not entirely sure that catholic and orthodox should be represented as different religions in-game. In 1066, they had only been in schism for a little more than 10 years, and it wasn't beyond the realm of possibility that officials from both churches could have reached an agreement where they were in communion with each other once again....
 
Marcus Valerius said:
I'm not entirely sure that catholic and orthodox should be represented as different religions in-game. In 1066, they had only been in schism for a little more than 10 years, and it wasn't beyond the realm of possibility that officials from both churches could have reached an agreement where they were in communion with each other once again....
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This is somewhat valid argument if the game ends in 1066, but it starts there and spans to XV century.
Also bear in mind that the misunderstandings between Constantinople and Rome had started centuries before 1066

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13535a.htm
http://holyorthodoxy.tripod.com/schism.html
http://mb-soft.com/believe/txc/gschism.htm
http://www.philthompson.net/pages/library/schism.html

This article is also of interest:
http://www.philthompson.net/pages/library/eastwest.html
 
Dibo said:
This is somewhat valid argument if the game ends in 1066, but it starts there and spans to XV century.
Also bear in mind that the misunderstandings between Constantinople and Rome had started centuries before 1066
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But also, one has to keep in mind there were repeated attempts to reunify the churches throughout the period - though mostly on the Pope's terms, as the Eastern emperors were trying to get help against the Turks. However, this game is all about changing history. If there is no Manzikert, and the Byzantine Empire survives intact throughout the period, they'd be able to negotiate with the Papacy for a reunification from a position of strength. Who knows what someone like Michael VIII would have been able to accomplish had he ruled more than the rump of the Empire that was left at that time. There certainly were differences, as you point out, but had history played out differently a reunification of the churches would have been quite possible - and that is what the game is all about, having history play out differently than it did in real life.
 
Marcus Valerius said:
I'm not entirely sure that catholic and orthodox should be represented as different religions in-game.
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But also, one has to keep in mind there were repeated attempts to reunify the churches throughout the period - though mostly on the Pope's terms, as the Eastern emperors were trying to get help against the Turks. However, this game is all about changing history.
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Yes maybe we should be able to reunite christianity however this is also historical game and differencies between eastern and western christianity were as said Dibo much older than 1054 year and were very important in poltical, social and cultural aspects of European states of this period. This is evident in every historical book concerning this problem.
 
To eventually include a unification of the Churces would be a design decicion. I am not sure if its worthwile to include, considering that the Churces were separated, and remained so, for the entire game span.
 
gweinel said:
But the religion of your dynasty will affect your technology as it is now at EU2?
For example: If someone is orthodox will have lower advanccement than a catholic one?
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Religion does not affect technology in EU2.

I guess I can say that in general culture is more important in CK...
 
Havard said:
To eventually include a unification of the Churces would be a design decicion. I am not sure if its worthwile to include, considering that the Churces were separated, and remained so, for the entire game span.
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The churches were twice united during the game span, though not very successfully or for long.
 
how many different religions will there be ?
 
Arg, I hope they put in a way to bind them, that could be fun trying to do...
 
Havard said:
Religion does not affect technology in EU2.
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Yes it does! Orthodox moves slower than Catholic (as does CRC), Pagans move the slowest of all... just open up religion.csv, and the first numerical category is "Techspeed."
 
Judas Maccabeus said:
Yes it does! Orthodox moves slower than Catholic (as does CRC), Pagans move the slowest of all... just open up religion.csv, and the first numerical category is "Techspeed."
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It affects techgain - but the effects you are quoting are minor when compared to the effects of 'techgroup' (and often inflation gives bigger maluses as well)
 
What affects, beside possible speed of getting new technology will religion have on the game?? I would assume you could possible get different events or so.
 
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