Religious_cb related questions

[fixmypcmike]

A few thoughts and questions about how certain events could be scripted:

Currently there are two ways countries can get a CB on anyone of a particular religion:
1) define a new religion (e.g. counterreform)
2) religious_cb that POR and SPA have against muslims and pagans

The 2nd option is sort of a simplifying shorthand; instead of creating a different type of catholicism (and counterreform) for POR and SPA, we can use this flag to give these 2 countries extra cb's without creating a separate religion. You could conceivably add a Muslim country to give it cb's against Christians that other Muslims don't have. However, AFAICT it can't be event-driven. If you want to start and stop it, you need a separate religion -- doable, but it's a lot more work.

There also doesn't seem to be a way I can think of to give certain countries a CB against POR or SPA in response to their automatic CB's -- for example, if Kilwa (or any East African muslim country) sees multiple muslim countries it knows of being attacked/annexed/vassalized by POR, it might be reasonable for it to get an automatic CB against POR.

A related issue is AVGEEP event 248003, East African nations asking Oman for help against Portugal. Oman is a special case because it only exists if Portugal annexed Ormuz and then Oman broke away from Portugal, but conceivably another country could have been annexed by Portugal and then broken free, and received a similar request for help. I haven't figured out any generic way to set a trigger condition for having once been owned by Portugal and having gained independence.

Any thoughts?

 

[ConjurerDragon]

A few thoughts and questions about how certain events could be scripted:

Currently there are two ways countries can get a CB on anyone of a particular religion:
1) define a new religion (e.g. counterreform)
2) religious_cb that POR and SPA have against muslims and pagans

The 2nd option is sort of a simplifying shorthand; instead of creating a different type of catholicism (and counterreform) for POR and SPA, we can use this flag to give these 2 countries extra cb's without creating a separate religion. You could conceivably add a Muslim country to give it cb's against Christians that other Muslims don't have. However, AFAICT it can't be event-driven. If you want to start and stop it, you need a separate religion -- doable, but it's a lot more work.

There also doesn't seem to be a way I can think of to give certain countries a CB against POR or SPA in response to their automatic CB's -- for example, if Kilwa (or any East African muslim country) sees multiple muslim countries it knows of being attacked/annexed/vassalized by POR, it might be reasonable for it to get an automatic CB against POR.

A related issue is AVGEEP event 248003, East African nations asking Oman for help against Portugal. Oman is a special case because it only exists if Portugal annexed Ormuz and then Oman broke away from Portugal, but conceivably another country could have been annexed by Portugal and then broken free, and received a similar request for help. I haven't figured out any generic way to set a trigger condition for having once been owned by Portugal and having gained independence.

Any thoughts?

There always is the defender of the faith - if e.g. Kilwa would be the defender of the faith of the sunnis then it would get a CB on all nations at war with sunni countries as long as it stays DoF.

Most muslim countries which do not border POR or SPA and are on different continents might not declare war even if they would have a CB - they would probably go for closer provinces that have the right culture/faith or a national core on.

Oman does not only exist if it broke away from Portugal. Sure, there is an event to have Oman break free of Portugal *if POR actually owns the provinces of it*, but Ormuz could be annexed by anyone (historically it should be the persians) and Oman is a revolter that can break free of any nation but Ormuz

OMA = { #Oman
    no = ORM
    date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1515 }
    expirydate = { year = 1820 }
    minimum = { 504 505 }
    extra = { }
    capital = 505
    group = muslim
    #ai = "Oman1.ai"
    ai = "SmallTrade3.ai"
}