Removal of Swiss culture.

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I am sorry, if the following text insults someone Swiss and please correct me if I am wrong:

There is no swiss "culture"!

The swiss food, mountaineering and songs (yodling) are the same as in Germany, they both come from celtic people, whose cultural center was in the salt mines of salzburg.

The languages spoken in Switzerland are: German, French and Italian.

So what I propose is:

-Make Bern and Schwyz German in 1419.
-Make an event considering the French protestants, like this:


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French version:

Story about "french protestants (Hugenots)"

Action A: Don´t approve their religion:

- 2 innovatiness
- Conversion of of a protestant province
- Trigger the swiss event
- +2 stab

Action B: approve their religion:

- +2 innovativiness
- -2 stab

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Swiss event:

"The french protestants had to leave their country and they came to us"

Action: "Great"

- +2 innovativiness
- -50 relations to France
- Make Bern French
- Gain culture French


Or something.

 

[Havard]

The Swiss culture was included to represent the inherent (will of) independence of the Swiss people in this period.

I disagree with a removal.

 

[Twoflower]

Originally posted by Havard
The Swiss culture was included to represent the inherent (will of) independence of the Swiss people in this period.

I disagree with a removal.

Wouldn't this "will of independence" be better represented by events? E.g. the Frisians had a independent status and mind very similar to that of the Swiss AND differed much more culturally and linguistically from the Dutch than the Swiss did from the Germans.

 

[Garbon]

I think it would be easier to stick with the status quo. There isn't much to gain, but much too loose (mainly time) by axing swiss culture.

 

[Kaeso]

As swiss I would like to change the swiss culture to a more generic "Alpine" culture. People from all the Alps have more in common. Rheto-romanche is spoken in Switzerland but several austrian and italian valleys spoke "ladino" which is quite close. The first cantons made their oath in latin. The german appear latter when Zurich, Bern and Luzern enter in the Alliance. And as I said many time, Switzerland should not be a entire reformed country.

 

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Originally posted by dictator
The languages spoken in Switzerland are: German, French and Italian.

The languages spoken in Helvetia are a variety of respectively Allemanic, Lombardic, Romance, French and Provencial dialects.

 

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In my current game, I've reduced Europe to just 6 macro-cultures, but Swiss is one of them! The dogged independence of the Swiss, their unique politics and the super-heterogeneous nature of Switzerland's peoples make the country too different, in my opinion, to lump together with any other culture.