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I've been trying to edit it because I still don't understand the mechanics exactly (How much infamy is bad? How much does action x give/reduce infamy? How should I deal with wars and infamy?) and I know I have a reputation so horrible in game vassals rebel left and right, yet in the save game under SICI (My kingdom) badboy = 0.

Wut?
 
Put mouse over the current loyalty in the character screen. The tooltip will list whatever effects loyalty currently. It will not separate traits (like in CK II) but just show the combined value.

Scutage, laws, reputation, diplomacy, family relation, prestige and traits should list there. Reputation is quite important.

When warring avoid grabbing/usurping claims unless you really need to, give up claims to whomever you make your vassal. Giving up claims is important and the main way to having good reputation.

I don't know if you can edit bad boy from the savegame, but you can cheat and cause an event to come up which will reduce your badboy.
 
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If I have claims on a rebllious vassal who's just going to rebel in another world, am I not better just taking the land for myself? According to the guide, if I have claims, that costs 0 badboy. Vassalizing gains me more anyway. My laws increase loyalty, my scutage is full loyalty (lowered), neither are family (not sure what I was thinking...) prestige is amazing, dimplomatic skill? is -2, and reputation is -2.
 
Alpha Zeke said:
If I have claims on a rebllious vassal who's just going to rebel in another world, am I not better just taking the land for myself? According to the guide, if I have claims, that costs 0 badboy. Vassalizing gains me more anyway. My laws increase loyalty, my scutage is full loyalty (lowered), neither are family (not sure what I was thinking...) prestige is amazing, dimplomatic skill? is -2, and reputation is -2.
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Diplomacy -2 ? That sounds like you haven't appointed a chancellor.
 
Alpha Zeke said:
If I have claims on a rebllious vassal who's just going to rebel in another world, am I not better just taking the land for myself? According to the guide, if I have claims, that costs 0 badboy. Vassalizing gains me more anyway. My laws increase loyalty, my scutage is full loyalty (lowered), neither are family (not sure what I was thinking...) prestige is amazing, dimplomatic skill? is -2, and reputation is -2.
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Taking a title in war adds BB and 2 BB if you are the aggressor. Making him a vassal while giving up the claim removes 0.25 BB. So BB wise it is not better to take the land for yourself. If you can handle the land yourself, or appoint it to a more loyal person (family member), then it might be good to take it and pass on (granting the title removes 0.5 BB).

As for the diplomacy factor, as Veldmaarschalk noted, make sure you have a good, loyal, diplomat.

When your kingdom is large enough you can ignore minor vassals revolting/declaring independence, they will come begging back soon enough.
 
Earlier before, England somehow collapsed and the King's only actually province was in Galacia. All of his Dukes had rebelled against him as well as his counts. I have a claim to his throne from some great uncle, and I acted on it to take over the Crown.

Now, half of England has sworn alligience to me, as well as a quarter of France, an 8th of Spain, Western Poland. Is it worth trying to keep all of my vassals in check, or should I only focus on the very concentrated ones like Southern Italy (Mostly my personal land) and England?

Also, my total combined arms vassals and I comes to about 150k. Is that a lot?
 
150k is a lot.

But having all those people swear fealthy to you sounds like you haven't installed the latetst beta-patch, since it sounds like a bug that has been fixed in the beta.
 
I believe I have though :eek: when I load up the game, I cannot quite remember the number, but it is indeed followed by BETA. There is also a beta scenario available. But I suppose the only way to know for sure is to check.


Also, just curious, how does army morale actually work? If I only pay a fraction of the army upkeep bar (Since with 150k soldiers its rediculous how expensive the army is, I must thank my vassals for help paying their costs -___-) does the morale stay very low on all units? To the point that I could be defeated with a 10k army versus a 15k one.
 
Alpha Zeke said:
I believe I have though :eek: when I load up the game, I cannot quite remember the number, but it is indeed followed by BETA. There is also a beta scenario available. But I suppose the only way to know for sure is to check.
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There are various beta-patches. If you haven't installed the beta-patch, but use the one that came with the game then you have an older version of the beta.

Who is so big in your game that you need an 150k army to defeat them ?
 
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