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No reason to take panzer off in favor of Tamius, or Ironhead for that matter.

Reject
 
More or less what I wanted to see there.

It makes sense. But I'll be disappointed if it's that obvious.

I don't trust Panzer, and if I put him on my team, he'd reject it anyway.

Propose

Tamius
aedan
madchemist

APPROVE

This is actually quite funny, although it makes sense from a baddie tamius POV. Why would a baddie Tamius want me off the team if I'm resistance, so long as he's on there? He doesn't necessarily. He just needs a team with him on that'll be accepted. Given I said I would reject such a team, it was very unlikely to have passed. So this team has 3 people that's 3 approves if at least those on it approve it, plus K-59's vote and well, things look bad but they're not as bad as last game. A long shot certainly, but perhaps Spy!Tamius' only chance. Amirite?

Reject
 
Tamius
aedan
madchemist

Team is Rejected 1-5.

Approve: Tamius

Reject: Everyone else.

Team is Rejected 3-3

That is two out of a possible 5 Rejections this round.

There is 1 Successful Mission and are no Sabotaged Missions.

K-59 is the next leader. Another 3-person team.
 
REJECT

tamius23: Why did you put madchemist on that team?

It was either him or k-59, and there's not much to separate them. Perhaps in hindsight k-59 would have been better, because it hardly could have turned out worse.

Anyway, the rejection of this team is a foregone conclusion.

reject

This is actually quite funny, although it makes sense from a baddie tamius POV. Why would a baddie Tamius want me off the team if I'm resistance, so long as he's on there? He doesn't necessarily. He just needs a team with him on that'll be accepted. Given I said I would reject such a team, it was very unlikely to have passed. So this team has 3 people that's 3 approves if at least those on it approve it, plus K-59's vote and well, things look bad but they're not as bad as last game. A long shot certainly, but perhaps Spy!Tamius' only chance. Amirite?

Last team either had a spy approving a clean team or a spy on the team who didn't sabotage. (Or there are no spies, but that seems pretty unlikely). Given that game 41 opened the Spies' eyes to the dangers of allowing clean teams through, I think that one of you and aedan is a spy. (Or both - which would explain why aedan didn't sabotage - but I didn't find that likely enough to be worth considering.)

Of the two of you I find you to be most suspicious so I put aedan on the team besides myself. Not to mention that if I put you on the team it would guarantee its rejection, since you've declared you'll only accept yourself, aedan and Ironhead, so a potential Tamius/Panzer/x team would need two approvals from players off the team, which doesn't exactly instil confidence. Then for the third member it certainly wasn't going to be Ironhead - partly out of spite for giving me Opinion Maker twice in two games when we've played together even though I hate the thing, and partly because he's doing exactly what he did in game 40, which helped the Spies win - and of the two remaining players, as I wrote above, they're very similar, so it wouldn't make much of a difference which one I chose.
 
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It was either him or k-59, and there's not much to separate them. Perhaps in hindsight k-59 would have been better, because it hardly could have turned out worse.

Anyway, the rejection of this team is a foregone conclusion.

reject



Last team either had a spy approving a clean team or a spy on the team who didn't sabotage. (Or there are no spies, but that seems pretty unlikely). Given that game 41 opened the Spies' eyes to the dangers of allowing clean teams through, I think that one of you and aedan is a spy. (Or both - which would explain why aedan didn't sabotage - but I didn't find that likely enough to be worth considering.)

Of the two of you I find you to be most suspicious so I put aedan on the team besides myself. Not to mention that if I put you on the team it would guarantee its rejection, since you've declared you'll only accept yourself, aedan and Ironhead, so a potential Tamius/Panzer/x team would need two approvals from players off the team, which doesn't exactly instil confidence. Then for the third member it certainly wasn't going to be Ironhead - partly out of spite for giving me Opinion Maker twice in two games when we've played together even though I hate the thing, and partly because he's doing exactly what he did in game 40, which helped the Spies win - and of the two remaining players, as I wrote above, they're very similar, so it wouldn't make much of a difference which one I chose.

That does make sense from your POV, but it rests on me being a spy which I am not.
 
Reject

Don't trust K-59 more than Ironhead. Maybe not even more than Madchemist.
 
Team of:

k-59
Panzer
Aedan

Approve: K-59

Reject: Panzer, Tamius, Madchemist, Ironhead, Aedan

Team is Rejected 1-5.

That is three out of a possible 5 Rejections this round.

There is 1 Successful Mission and are no Sabotaged Missions.

Madchemist is the next leader. Another 3-person team.
 
Chemist, I would understand if you proposed yourself, but I'd still prefer Ironhead.

I know, but I still trust myself over Ironhead, for obvious reasons.

madchemist
aedan
Panzer

Approve

Though to be honest I kind of doubt that it matters which I pick at this point. But aedan can always propose just that if this doesn't go forward anyway.
 
I'd rather have you than Ironhead, chemist, but there's still hope that aedan won't choose him. Also, I'd get a load of unwarranted suspicion if I were to approve.

reject
 
I'd rather have you than Ironhead, chemist, but there's still hope that aedan won't choose him. Also, I'd get a load of unwarranted suspicion if I were to approve.

reject
Well I guess I'll dispel that hope- If I propose a team, Ironhead is going on it. Though that doesn't mean I'm necessarily going to reject this team. Madchemist is more likely to be resistance I think than Tamius or K-59, but less than Ironhead, so it'd be safer to reject it. But if this team is approved, I get the cards, and I know I can trust myself to use them in the interests of the resistance. On the other hand, if I propose the team, then Panzer gets the cards, and I'm pretty sure he's resistance, so it wouldn't be an issue if he gets the cards. At the same time, Tamius wants this team rejected, and I'm fairly certain he's a spy. Sure he says it's because he hopes that I don't put Ironhead on the team, but what if that's a trap to make me more likely to pick his spymate? Difficult. I think I'll-

Vote by PM
 
Well I guess I'll dispel that hope- If I propose a team, Ironhead is going on it. Though that doesn't mean I'm necessarily going to reject this team. Madchemist is more likely to be resistance I think than Tamius or K-59, but less than Ironhead, so it'd be safer to reject it. But if this team is approved, I get the cards, and I know I can trust myself to use them in the interests of the resistance. On the other hand, if I propose the team, then Panzer gets the cards, and I'm pretty sure he's resistance, so it wouldn't be an issue if he gets the cards. At the same time, Tamius wants this team rejected, and I'm fairly certain he's a spy. Sure he says it's because he hopes that I don't put Ironhead on the team, but what if that's a trap to make me more likely to pick his spymate? Difficult. I think I'll-

Vote by PM

To be honest, I'm not sure what to make of Tamius' rejection. At least he has OM so we know he actually means to reject that. I think that probably means that Tamius and Madchemist are unlikely spymates.

Tamius, you say you don't want Aedan to put Ironhead on the team, yet you also don't want Madchemist on. Who exactly do you want? Did you hope Aedan would put you on or leave me off? Is there something obvious I'm missing?

Either way. Madchemist is good enough, and I want to move on.

Approve