Revolutions in Russia

[viper37]

I am having some difficulties playing with Russia in this scenario. I can get to 1704-1705, without too much difficulties, but around this time, I am having problems with rebellion in Central Asian provinces.

I can avoid problems with the Moselm provinces by increasing the tolerance levels, but three irreductibles are Pagans and keep revolting. I usually beat them, but since they looted the provinces, I don't get any income for twelve months, and by the time they come alight, another revolution starts. By the end 1706, I had four provinces under rebel influence and I can barely contain all those insurections.

In one game, I didn't do anything in these provinces and they all rebelled. In another game, I upgraded to Tax Collector, Chief Judge and Governor. I tought that Chief Judge would reduce the risk of rebellion, but it seems it only reduce it to what it was prior to the Tax Collector.

Do you have any suggestions? Do fine Arts Academy reduce the risk of rebellion in provinces? Is there something I am doing wrong, or is it just scripted into the scenario?

 

[Xanadu]

Hail Viper37,

Last night I had the same scenerio , but in Central America playing as England. I have noticed (but I could be wrong here of course) that the pagans fall closer to the Orthodox religion than any other. Which in itself is weird especially when you are Orthodox yourself. My suggestion is to lower the tolerance of one of the cathoilc religions. Obviously depending on how many of your provinces have the least # catholic religions (catholic,protesant,reformed,counter-reformed). The way I see it is I would rather "persecute" one religion , and know exactly where they are going to revolt , as opposed to trying to please everyone (which you can't) and risk revolts poping up all over your empire.

Hope this helps.

 

[hjarg]

Actually i think that would be war exhaustion.. have you been at war for about 5-10 years or so???

And what pagan provinces? Or muslim? Haven't you heard of forced conversion??? Set tolerance againt that religion to 0, they start rebelling, you start killing them and voila- when population drops below 5000, you can send colonist there and make them all good orthodox

Never had aonther religion in my GC as Russia...

 

[unmerged(2609)]

I don't see why the religion problem is big with Russia. You turn tolerance for Islam up, to start, and you turn the other religions down until you get a province of that religion.

If you go south you get Moslems, and if you go west you get Catholics and a few Protestants. It's easy to find a happy medium.

I don't know why the central Asians would be causing problems, unless it is in fact war exhaustion.

bruce

 

[unmerged(2878)]

I had a similar problem for a short time when I played as Russia. First step is to get your stability to 3. It really helps.

If you can afford it (which is hard as Russia), build industries to drop the revolt risk as well. Don't build tax collectors if you're worried about revolt (even though they let you build chief judges as well--it doesn't ballance out the negatives of tax collecting). Upgrade your Mayor. That's all the advice I can figure for now. Stability really really helps (or hurts)!

If you let them take the fortress btw, you can drop their population by laying siege to the province; hopefully dropping it below 5000. Then you can colonize the area, thereby convert them to your religion.

 

[unmerged(2609)]

Eesh, another suggestion to kill off perfectly fine cities. I've never had a problem with revolts in Russia except in three cases:

1) War exhaustion. If you war for several years in a row, the revolt risk will increase a few percent.

2) Nationalism. Some places don't have it, and some do, and if a province has it, it's 3%, and it will be 3% even if you convert them to your religion. It will be 3% for a long time, then 2%, then 1%, then gone, and there's nothing you can do to improve this. You can figure out if you have nationalism in a province by hovering the mouse over the "revolt risk" percentage. It will tell you the components of the revolt risk if you wait a few seconds. If you have nationalism, you need to leave a garrison there for a long time.

3) Bad tolerance settings. You start out hating moslems, but eventually you will get some, so you need to change the slider.

All of these can either be easily prevented or can't be prevented. I haven't seen any need to take drastic action.

Some people go really fast as Russia and take a whole bunch of provinces. The four Khanates on the way to Siberia don't have any nationalism. Crimea does, and so do some provinces in Poland and Sweden. If you take a lot of territory really fast, you'll have to have a lot of garrison troops in order to deal with the revolts, and if you are the kind of player who is constantly in wars, the garrisons tend to get called away as reinforcements, so you end up seeing a lot of Mr. Pitchfork.

bruce

 

[viper37]

Thanks to all of you, I was finally able to defeat Sweden in the Great Northern War. I never realized the province religion changed when sending colonists (and not trying to please everyone was also a better strategy). Without rebellion, I was able to focus on western europe and conquer all the provinces I needed to win the scenario.