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Let me preface by saying that I loved and played the heck out of Rome Total War; however, after playing Paradox' strategy titles, I've been utterly converted. The tension that is introduced by setting limits to players warmongering, (e.g. through CB's), the dynamic way that AI factions respond to player actions and covertly spread there own agenda really brings Paradox' games to life.

Sadly, Rome 2's strategy map just feels like a medium to go from one real-time battle to the next (battles which are admittedly very cool). Unfortunately, CA's diplomacy and faction AI is as bland as ever, putting up token resistance to the player's world conquering dreams. While EU4 hinders the blobbing game and gives the player alternative means to succeed with their nation, Rome 2 is designed for the player to blob.

If only you guys at Paradox could go in on a cooperative project with CA and whip their strategy guys into shape. Maybe you all should pitch a strategy overhaul expansion to them. Rome 2: Total War's beautiful visuals and visceral combat with PI's in-depth strategy: that's a game I'd pay $100 for.

P.S. Please make a new game somewhere in between 5th Century B.C. and 5th Century A.D. soon.
 
EUIV currently has the very top metacritic score from users. R2TW has an abysmal rating and one of the lowest. These are two companies going in very different directions. Can't believe Rome is $60, I won't buy it until it's less than $10 on sale.
 
The optimization in Rome 2 makes it unplayable on a huge amount of systems, even ones that exceed the recommended specs. The AI is even worse than in previous titles as well.
 
While it's true that Rome 2 needs both optimization and AI upgrades, those can be addressed fairly easily in patches. The greater problem is the weakness of design of the strategy elements. I, as the player, do not feel the political implications of my actions. Provinces don't really care whether I, as Athens, or Macedon control them. Worse yet, I can't liberate provinces of my allies who have been overrun. The best I can do is take the provinces for myself. It really isn't new with total war games, I just wish they would take some cues from other people in the business that are revolutionizing the way strategy games are done.
 
Ever since getting into Paradox games a couple years ago I can't look at TW games the same way anymore. Haven't bought Rome 2 yet, probably won't.

I wouldn't bother; having tried the 'unofficial demo' I can confidently say it's a steaming turd.

Even if you agree with their misguided design decisions (piss poor UI, poorly paced combat, loss of many valued Rome1 mechanics), it's still very obviously an early beta.
It lacks all manner of polish, has excruciating loading & turn processing times, terrible performance, broken AI, and is in general extremely buggy.
 
I wouldn't bother; having tried the 'unofficial demo' I can confidently say it's a steaming turd.

Even if you agree with their misguided design decisions (piss poor UI, poorly paced combat, loss of many valued Rome1 mechanics), it's still very obviously an early beta.
It lacks all manner of polish, has excruciating loading & turn processing times, terrible performance, broken AI, and is in general extremely buggy.
Sorta reminds me of what a certain company was like. "wink wink"
 
Ever since getting into Paradox games a couple years ago I can't look at TW games the same way anymore. Haven't bought Rome 2 yet, probably won't.

I am quite similar, I started with TW, moved across and never looked back. I am, or was, only considering getting Rome 2 because it doesn't really look like EU: Rome will get a sequel anytime soon. Friends have attempted to convince me to buy it because "the battles are cool", but I don't really care about the manual battles (I skipped them over even before I discovered paradox) but the GRAND strategy aspect. From what I'm hearing that department is sorely lacking even for a TW game.
 
I bought R2:TW as a vicarious outlet for my EU:R2 cravings.

Ugh, i should have just bought a bottle of decent whiskey.
 
I just bought Total War: Rome 2.. kind of pricey but looks to be well worth it.. really does. Can't wait to play as the Iceni, my ancestors, ancient Britons!
 
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Let me preface by saying that I loved and played the heck out of Rome Total War; however, after playing Paradox' strategy titles, I've been utterly converted. The tension that is introduced by setting limits to players warmongering, (e.g. through CB's), the dynamic way that AI factions respond to player actions and covertly spread there own agenda really brings Paradox' games to life.

Sadly, Rome 2's strategy map just feels like a medium to go from one real-time battle to the next (battles which are admittedly very cool). Unfortunately, CA's diplomacy and faction AI is as bland as ever, putting up token resistance to the player's world conquering dreams. While EU4 hinders the blobbing game and gives the player alternative means to succeed with their nation, Rome 2 is designed for the player to blob.

If only you guys at Paradox could go in on a cooperative project with CA and whip their strategy guys into shape. Maybe you all should pitch a strategy overhaul expansion to them. Rome 2: Total War's beautiful visuals and visceral combat with PI's in-depth strategy: that's a game I'd pay $100 for.

P.S. Please make a new game somewhere in between 5th Century B.C. and 5th Century A.D. soon.

The way I see it is Total War is for when you are in the mood for raw carnage and Paradox games are for when you want a lot more strategy and "leader simulation."
 
Rome II's launch appears to be even more of a train wreck than I had anticipated. I'm frankly surprised by the current metacritic score (which is itself in ME3 territory), particularly when you compare the score with recent Paradox releases. The interesting thing is people oft-complain about the issues to be found in new titles like EU4 and CK2 but somehow no one feels so betrayed as to rate the game a zero either. Perhaps it's because there's something of a level of confidence in Paradox to support their products long-term and for things to eventually be straightened out. I suspect Sega/CA have no such goodwill with their customer base and so the problems with games like Rome II are seen as terminal and not likely to be resolved at any time in the future. Just a guess on my part but it is an intriguing comparison to be sure.
 
Rome II's launch appears to be even more of a train wreck than I had anticipated. I'm frankly surprised by the current metacritic score (which is itself in ME3 territory), particularly when you compare the score with recent Paradox releases. The interesting thing is people oft-complain about the issues to be found in new titles like EU4 and CK2 but somehow no one feels so betrayed as to rate the game a zero either. Perhaps it's because there's something of a level of confidence in Paradox to support their products long-term and for things to eventually be straightened out. I suspect Sega/CA have no such goodwill with their customer base and so the problems with games like Rome II are seen as terminal and not likely to be resolved at any time in the future. Just a guess on my part but it is an intriguing comparison to be sure.


I think people are too picky. I am finding Rome 2 to be amazing but then again I am biased towards historical games like this. People need to stop being A-holes and just play the game IMHO. Well worth the money, both EU 4 and Rome 2.
 
I bought R2TW and it´s not the game from the trailers, they removed so much from it!
I really want my money back, EU4 is much better.
 
The UI is different, the graphics are very low quality even in extreme settings (Shogun 2 was better), units behave worse than in the official Walkthroughs, etc...
Also, CA said they were going to add new animations since the Siege of Carthage video... I have the feeling they actually removed animations since then, and the glitches the game has makes sea battles unplayable and replays dont show the full battle.
I could continue with more features that were removed, but I would be typing all day, let´s just say the game now has half the features it promised and showed to have, is like they made it for a console.
If I compare the "Total War: Rome II - Teutoburg Walkthrough" from YT with my Walkthrough in-game I just feel scamed.

EDIT: Some lovely photos from the game :D
mpLB5tS.jpg
 
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The UI is different, the graphics are very low quality even in extreme settings (Shogun 2 was better), units behave worse than in the official Walkthroughs, etc...
Also, CA said they were going to add new animations since the Siege of Carthage video... I have the feeling they actually removed animations since then, and the glitches the game has makes sea battles unplayable and replays dont show the full battle.
I could continue with more features that were removed, but I would be typing all day, let´s just say the game now has half the features it promised and showed to have, is like they made it for a console.
If I compare the "Total War: Rome II - Teutoburg Walkthrough" from YT with my Walkthrough in-game I just feel scamed.

EDIT: Some lovely photos from the game :D

zombie legionnaires :huh:
 
I don't understand what so many people are complaining about. Rome Total War 2 is amazing and I find absolutely nothing wrong with it. My expectations were exceeded. The graphics were decent, the cultures are fleshed out, and the gameplay has me hooked. I have had no lag, no CTDs, no bugs. What in the blazes is so bad about it?? What more do you want from this game? I do not understand what people expect to gain from bashing Total War games. If you don't like it, don't play it. It's too bad that you feel your money is wasted. You should have watched some youtube gameplay first.