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Hey Paradox, I love you guys. Love your games and your business philosophy. Please, please, please can you give us Season Passes for future games? How many DLC's are there now for CKII? EUIV is also building a big DLC base and I imagine HOI4 will be the same. I know i don't HAVE to buy all the little DLC's but I have the money and don't mind supporting you guys. But please make it easier on us 'buy everything' folks by giving (letting us purchase) Season Passes. That way we have 1 large purchase instead of dozens of little ones. Appreciate all you guys do. Thanks for your consideration.
 
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Flybynight said:
Hey Paradox, I love you guys. Love your games and your business philosophy. Please, please, please can you give us Season Passes for future games? How many DLC's are there now for CKII? EUIV is also building a big DLC base and I imagine HOI3 will be the same. I know i don't HAVE to buy all the little DLC's but I have the money and don't mind supporting you guys. But please make it easier on us 'buy everything' folks by giving (letting us purchase) Season Passes. That way we have 1 large purchase instead of dozens of little ones. Appreciate all you guys do. Thanks for your consideration.
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You can imagine all you want for HoI3, but for HoI4 DLCs will be released. Have you heard about bundles? Honestly how many customers are there like you who buy every single DLC? I would bet that there are not all that many. Personally I buy only the expansions and useful DLCs like the ruler designer for CK2 for example and I buy the music DLCs as well. But for the unit sprites I am totally indifferent to the same can be said for shields.
 
Oops, yeah, I meant HOI4.

Yeah, I realize that not everyone is going to buy every little DLC. And that's perfectly fine. I suppose only Paradox would be able to tell exactly how many are buying everything. I'm just throwing my hat in with the 'buy everything' crowd and asking for an easier way to stay on top of it all. A Season Pass type of model would satisfy both of us.
 
Flybynight said:
Oops, yeah, I meant HOI4.

Yeah, I realize that not everyone is going to buy every little DLC. And that's perfectly fine. I suppose only Paradox would be able to tell exactly how many are buying everything. I'm just throwing my hat in with the 'buy everything' crowd and asking for an easier way to stay on top of it all. A Season Pass type of model would satisfy both of us.
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The problem comes with the pricing of the season pass, Paradox may know how many expansions they are likely to release in one year but to know how many small DLCs are going to be released can be difficult as the number varies very much from year to year. But I would agree with you I would maybe just buy a season pass for simplicity.
 
First off, if Paradox did offer this option, I'd like it to be called something besides a "season pass." Whatever marketing executive thought "You know what? Video games should be more like sports." should be fired.

That aside, I'm not sure this makes good business sense. Paradox Development Studios is not on as tight a development cycle as some other publishers are--if a game does well, support for it tends to be extended, and under the current PDS model more patching means more DLC. An all-inclusive would take away from some of this flexibility, as depending on the initial budgeting that results in the pricing, it may not be profitable to keep making DLCs for a popular game if many people are entitled to new DLCs without paying more. In the long run, I don't think that serves customers well.

If you want to simplify Paradox DLC purchasing, I would advocate for rolling the many tiny art and music packs into the expansion they are typically released alongside, in the free patches, or otherwise as larger and more manageable bundles. This might make them work together better, as well. (Many CKII add-on music tracks, for example, play only under very limited circumstances because of the DLC's declared theme.)
 
I remember something about them saying "no season pass".
 
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First off, if Paradox did offer this option, I'd like it to be called something besides a "season pass." Whatever marketing executive thought "You know what? Video games should be more like sports." should be fired.

That aside, I'm not sure this makes good business sense. Paradox Development Studios is not on as tight a development cycle as some other publishers are--if a game does well, support for it tends to be extended, and under the current PDS model more patching means more DLC. An all-inclusive would take away from some of this flexibility, as depending on the initial budgeting that results in the pricing, it may not be profitable to keep making DLCs for a popular game if many people are entitled to new DLCs without paying more. In the long run, I don't think that serves customers well.

If you want to simplify Paradox DLC purchasing, I would advocate for rolling the many tiny art and music packs into the expansion they are typically released alongside, in the free patches, or otherwise as larger and more manageable bundles. This might make them work together better, as well. (Many CKII add-on music tracks, for example, play only under very limited circumstances because of the DLC's declared theme.)
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eventually they start rolling things up into bundles but it is usually everything up until x date and that's the CKII "Collection". i would like to see things bundled... but then you're just making even more things and possibly making it even more confusing and more expensive if you've already purchased some of the things in the bundle

i agree the "season pass" is an obnoxious term. but i also think it's an obnoxious idea. the idea is, i give you money for something before you deliver it without you telling me what it is in return for some slight and supposed discount. i have all the ck2 dlcs, unless they added some in the last week im unaware of. i agree it's kinda a pain to figure out which ones i have and don't have but i feel like that's Steam's problem more than paradoxes
 
Why not just have it so that you can buy a season pass for all the small DLCs. IE music, sprites, basically everything that isn't as detailed as a full on expansion.
 
The problem still stands that they don't know how many they will produce a given year which means pricing it would be very difficult.
 
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