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In my opinion this game have something good in-self. And its worth this money. Its some taste before Crusader Kings 2 but its in some original theatre of war. With last patch Sengoku is fully playable, after change in defines file you can make gameplay to 1836. If you conquere whole Japan, you can role-play switch to game of Japan in Victoria 2 without any save transfer. Because Japan was same old fashion in this time, isolated, and you start in Victoria 2 as Japan in borders of full conquere from Sengoku. So you feel that game is "without end". 
Yes, it is a good taste before Crusader kings 2 and i could get more familiar with the gameplay before its relase since its not close to Eu3 as it seems to me.
haha it must be awesome to continue a game from Sengoku to Victoria 2! Thank you! Now i shall buy Sengoku right away
haha it must be awesome to continue a game from Sengoku to Victoria 2! Thank you! Now i shall buy Sengoku right away
Ofc there is no game mechanic that switch Japan save from Sengoku to Victoria 2. Because such mechanic dont exist, but its not nessesery. I only mean that if you end your job in Sengoku you just jump into Victoria 2, and from this old fashion Japan you can create modern empire. Because main borders of Japan dont change in this two games, Japan was in isolation so you dont must afraid idioticy in political map in Europe etc. You just change perspective from one country to world domination.
Because main borders of Japan dont change in this two games, Japan was in isolation so you dont must afraid idioticy in political map in Europe etc. You just change perspective from one country to world domination.
Haha, but it would be an awesome feature to continue your dynasty like that if such mechanic did exist!!
Didn't Johan speak about that you can continue from eu3 -- Vic2 ?
Didn't Johan speak about that you can continue from eu3 -- Vic2 ?
Not to my knowledge, it's hard to see how an EU3 save could be converted into a V2 one. To the OP: yes.
I suppose it wouldn't be that big of a thing to mod the features of your Sengoku Japan to V2 start. I think the biggest possible difference would be if your faction became Christian or if Christianity made large gains in the game. Like in my last game whole Kyushu had become Christian as there was one Christian clan controlling both Kyushu and Shikoku.
Besides that there would be things like changing the country capital into what you had in Sengoku and modding new political factions that you could base on the clans in your game.
Besides that there would be things like changing the country capital into what you had in Sengoku and modding new political factions that you could base on the clans in your game.
This is the first paradox game that can legit kick my ass after I get the hang of it. Although it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of some other titles, understand that you trade that for a surprisingly competitive AI that can handle the same options that the player has. This is also the first Paradox game where I can lose a long game and have enjoyed the whole experience regardless.
The feel of the game is nifty too--there are no alliances: only plots, hostage exchanges, and varying hits to honor for DoW. It all feels very on the edge, and it is. Combing through characters for suitable wives is always interesting. The game usually forces you to face troublesome vassals. The game has a good sense of humor with some of the traits and their icons. A few things in the UI could be better but for the most part, this is a solid title that stands on its own as moving in a different direction than many Paradox games have done in the past. The game play is not as deep, but the AI and interesting diplomatic feel more than makes up for that. I approve.
If what I said jives with you, then yes it's worth your money. If not, no. Right now I am playing as a vassal. I started as a one province vassal to the clan lord, worked my way to daimyo, and now I am starting to think about how to take over the clan, or whether to start a civil war. My clan, headed by an AI but supported by me tactically, is kicking all kinds of ass, but every province my lord gets is one I may have to retake later. . . . It's cool!
The feel of the game is nifty too--there are no alliances: only plots, hostage exchanges, and varying hits to honor for DoW. It all feels very on the edge, and it is. Combing through characters for suitable wives is always interesting. The game usually forces you to face troublesome vassals. The game has a good sense of humor with some of the traits and their icons. A few things in the UI could be better but for the most part, this is a solid title that stands on its own as moving in a different direction than many Paradox games have done in the past. The game play is not as deep, but the AI and interesting diplomatic feel more than makes up for that. I approve.
If what I said jives with you, then yes it's worth your money. If not, no. Right now I am playing as a vassal. I started as a one province vassal to the clan lord, worked my way to daimyo, and now I am starting to think about how to take over the clan, or whether to start a civil war. My clan, headed by an AI but supported by me tactically, is kicking all kinds of ass, but every province my lord gets is one I may have to retake later. . . . It's cool!
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One of my favorite NES games earlier in life (I'm turning 35 this month) was Nobunaga's Revenge (Ambition). I was hooked on that game. I still am, but the ports to the iOS devices. I invest dozens of hours into it when I travel on business because I can sometimes consistently lose.
Sengoku came as a recommendation on Steam and having heard of Crusader Kings before, but no news of the more recent Paradox titles, I began digging into what makes Sengoku special compared to Total War. If it's not Civilizations, Diablo, or Final Fantasy, I typically have very little time or interest in gaming.
Sengoku has ended up being one of the best game purchases I've made in years after thirty hours of game play in three weeks.
While brute warfare is one way to win, there are so many options and a highly tuned AI to make loosing a great experience and provide a continual challenge. You can alter the way you play and achieve victory and you don't automatically win most Sengoku games once you master the mechanics. It's very strategic where decisions have a long term impact to attaining victory.
In my recent game, achieving a stalemate against a neighbor twice the size would be a major victory in itself and I'm on track to lose without taking a more aggressive/risky approach in my strategy. Each night I'm torn, Diablo 3 beta (having waited a decade for Diablo 3) or Sengoku. As entertainment, Sengoku is... super effective.
One of my favorite NES games earlier in life (I'm turning 35 this month) was Nobunaga's Revenge (Ambition). I was hooked on that game. I still am, but the ports to the iOS devices. I invest dozens of hours into it when I travel on business because I can sometimes consistently lose.
Sengoku came as a recommendation on Steam and having heard of Crusader Kings before, but no news of the more recent Paradox titles, I began digging into what makes Sengoku special compared to Total War. If it's not Civilizations, Diablo, or Final Fantasy, I typically have very little time or interest in gaming.
Sengoku has ended up being one of the best game purchases I've made in years after thirty hours of game play in three weeks.
While brute warfare is one way to win, there are so many options and a highly tuned AI to make loosing a great experience and provide a continual challenge. You can alter the way you play and achieve victory and you don't automatically win most Sengoku games once you master the mechanics. It's very strategic where decisions have a long term impact to attaining victory.
In my recent game, achieving a stalemate against a neighbor twice the size would be a major victory in itself and I'm on track to lose without taking a more aggressive/risky approach in my strategy. Each night I'm torn, Diablo 3 beta (having waited a decade for Diablo 3) or Sengoku. As entertainment, Sengoku is... super effective.
I too give Sengoku my highest endorsement.
Sengoku is a return to that classic "basic game" of computing days past. It's AI is very challenging, and doesn't need handicaps or cheats. I like that I don't have to read a 100 page manual just to takeoff (like one flight sim I have); it's actions are direct and intuitive. If you use common sense, you can learn Sengoku.
I wouldn't worry too much about anything else. Like all games, Sengoku will appeal to some and not to others. My own opinion is, if you like games at the level of Civ or one of the MMO's like WOW, you'll like Sengoku. It's a very clean, efficient design that does what it does very well. And for that, I appreciate it.
Looking forward to Johan & the team's next design!
Sengoku is a return to that classic "basic game" of computing days past. It's AI is very challenging, and doesn't need handicaps or cheats. I like that I don't have to read a 100 page manual just to takeoff (like one flight sim I have); it's actions are direct and intuitive. If you use common sense, you can learn Sengoku.
I wouldn't worry too much about anything else. Like all games, Sengoku will appeal to some and not to others. My own opinion is, if you like games at the level of Civ or one of the MMO's like WOW, you'll like Sengoku. It's a very clean, efficient design that does what it does very well. And for that, I appreciate it.
Looking forward to Johan & the team's next design!
Well, the modders of eu3/vic2 converter are doing a wonderful job with that. The last version is very complex and they still work on it.
Thinking of buying this game too since I've played EU3 to death. I've taken over the world as Scotland and I don't see any scenario that will challenge me the same way. I feel I've beaten the EU3 in all the ways I can. But what puts me off buying Sengoku is the seemingly limited scope in comparison to eu3 and victoria II.
Like EU3, if you approach Sengoku strictly as a wargame, you will at some point reach a "critical mass" and walk over the rest of Japan.
Or get walked over, yourself.
(Had that happen more than once myself...:happy
The key to Sengoku is the Heir/Inheritance/Vassal mini-games, similar to CK. If you enjoy those aspects, it's a good choice; if not, I'd go with Vicky II, or wait for CK2.