While testing the game as Germany I found several model naimng issues, especially for german aircraft.
I'll list them only once, other nations having using these modles may also be affected.
Currently the format used is Messershmitt Me-262 or Bf.109t. Both formats are incorrect, the correct naming format would be Messerschmitt Bf 109 or Messerschmitt Bf 109E or Messerschmitt Bf 109 E-3 (depending of how much subversion detail is used).
The Bf 109F is somewhere called Fritz or Franz but according to the spoken alphabet used by the Wehrmacht/Luftwaffe this has to be Friedrich.
I suggest to remove aircraft nicknames from foreign customers or replace them with their local nickname (if existing). I don't think the Hungarians use german or italian nicknames for their aircraft. The italians for example named the Ju 87
The german in-production cruiser "Graf Spee" needs to be renamed to "Admiral Graf Spee"
from models.csv:
MODEL_GER_13_9;Lippish Li.P13a
-> constructor name is Lippisch, project designation was P.13, correct name would be Lippisch P.13
MODEL_GER_13_7;Heinkel He-162 Salamander
-> Salamander was only the project name during development, production aircraft were called "Spatz" bei Heinkel, officials from RLM forced them to use "Volksjäger".
MODEL_GER_5_5;PzKpfw.VF Panther II
MODEL_HUN_5_5;PzKpfw.VF Panther II
-> the Panzerkampfwagen Panther Ausführung F was not the Panther II, it was a slightly modified Panther chassis with a new "Schmalturm" turret (looking similar to the one used by the Tiger II). It had improved armor and it was planned to use the long 88mm gun of the Tiger II as optional upgrade.
MODEL_GER_12_4;Go-229
BRIG_MODEL_GER_15_4;Gotha Go-229
-> completely wrong designation, use either the deveopment designation of Horten Ho.IX or the RLM designation Horten Ho 229, the aircraft would have been named by the constructers and not by the factory it was to be assembled in.
MODEL_GER_15_0;Junkers Ju-52
-> please use Junkers Ju 52/3m (3m = 3 Motoren = 3 engines)as this was the orrect designation, the original Ju 52 with only one engine had a very short life and was retroactively renamed Ju 52/1m
MODEL_GER_16_3;Junkers Ju-287 EF-140
-> Junkers Ju 287 would be enough here, the progect designation EF.140 is not needed as it had already the RLM number 287 assigned.
MODEL_GER_25_6;Lutjens-class
-> Lütjens-class
MODEL_GER_20_1;V2A9
-> should be renamed V2A4b, the A4b was an enlarged version of the A4 with more range, A9 was only used for future plans using the A10 as launch and initial accelerator component and an improved A4b (named A9) as ballistic missicle with large warhead. This V2 was named A9/A10 during development.
BRIG_MODEL_GER_6_2;Hetzer
->Official name was Jagdpanzer 38(t), Hetzer was to be used for the improved version Jagdpanzer 38(d) (lengthened, widened, stronger engine, probably a larger gun). At best was Hetzer something unofficially used.
BRIG_MODEL_GER_8_2;PzKpfw.VIB Konigstiger
-> Either Königstiger or Tiger II
BRIG_MODEL_GER_10_0;SdKfz-231
-> Sd.Kfz. 231
BRIG_MODEL_GER_14_4;Me.155 / Ju.87C Stuka
-> The Me 155 may be a little early but either in this brigade modle or one later the Ju 87C should be replaced with the Ju 87T (navalized version of the Ju 87D).
MODEL_ITA_17_1;Junkers Ju.87D Picchiarello
-> Correct name is "Picchiatello"
MODEL_ITA_13_3;Reggiane RE.2001
-> Re.2001 (second letter lowercase)
MODEL_ITA_4_2;L.6/40 (and similar italian tanks)
-> I do not see any source supporting this naming, should be L6/40 or M15/42 etc
MODEL_ITA_13_8;Fiat G-91R
-> Fiat G.91
MODEL_JAP_13_2;Nakajima Ki-43 Haybusa
-> Hayabusa
MODEL_JAP_16_1;Mitsubishi G4M Ishikkiro
-> Do you have a source for this name? Should be either nothing or Hamaki.
BRIG_MODEL_JAP_14_2;A5M Claude / D1A2 Susie / B2M1
BRIG_MODEL_JAP_14_3;A6M2 Reisen / D3A1 Val / B5N1 Kate
-> Please do not use allied codenames like Claude, Susie, Val or Kate, the D3A may have been named "Kanbaku", no local name for the others known (at least from my side)
BRIG_MODEL_JAP_14_7;A7M2 Reppu / B7A2;
-> The B7 was called "Ryusei"
MODEL_CZE_13_0;Avia B.534 (and similar Avia aircraft)
-> Avia used a "-" as separator, only Aero used a "." as separator. Avia B-534 would be the correct name.
Sparviero;SIAI-Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero
-> Should be Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 but without the italian nickname
MODEL_USA_17_0;Douglas A-24
-> The army version of the SBD Dauntless was called A-24 Banshee
MODEL_USA_17_1;Curtiss A-25
-> the army version of the SB2C Helldiver was to be called A-25 Shrike
MODEL_USA_18_1;Douglas C-47 Dakota
-> US naming was C-47 Skytrain, Dakota was the RAF name for it.
EDIT: Uploaded a new version for 1.06A2 with some minor fixes and the shifted line in translation of japanese models fixed
EDIT December 11 2010: Uploaded a new file with errors fixed, thanks to Fürstbischof for finding these.
EDIT December 21 2010: Uploaded a new file with typo fixed and forgotten Nürnberg-class to Leipzig-class change.
EDIT January 30, 2011: New version uploaded to the last post.
I'll list them only once, other nations having using these modles may also be affected.
Currently the format used is Messershmitt Me-262 or Bf.109t. Both formats are incorrect, the correct naming format would be Messerschmitt Bf 109 or Messerschmitt Bf 109E or Messerschmitt Bf 109 E-3 (depending of how much subversion detail is used).
The Bf 109F is somewhere called Fritz or Franz but according to the spoken alphabet used by the Wehrmacht/Luftwaffe this has to be Friedrich.
I suggest to remove aircraft nicknames from foreign customers or replace them with their local nickname (if existing). I don't think the Hungarians use german or italian nicknames for their aircraft. The italians for example named the Ju 87
The german in-production cruiser "Graf Spee" needs to be renamed to "Admiral Graf Spee"
from models.csv:
MODEL_GER_13_9;Lippish Li.P13a
-> constructor name is Lippisch, project designation was P.13, correct name would be Lippisch P.13
MODEL_GER_13_7;Heinkel He-162 Salamander
-> Salamander was only the project name during development, production aircraft were called "Spatz" bei Heinkel, officials from RLM forced them to use "Volksjäger".
MODEL_GER_5_5;PzKpfw.VF Panther II
MODEL_HUN_5_5;PzKpfw.VF Panther II
-> the Panzerkampfwagen Panther Ausführung F was not the Panther II, it was a slightly modified Panther chassis with a new "Schmalturm" turret (looking similar to the one used by the Tiger II). It had improved armor and it was planned to use the long 88mm gun of the Tiger II as optional upgrade.
MODEL_GER_12_4;Go-229
BRIG_MODEL_GER_15_4;Gotha Go-229
-> completely wrong designation, use either the deveopment designation of Horten Ho.IX or the RLM designation Horten Ho 229, the aircraft would have been named by the constructers and not by the factory it was to be assembled in.
MODEL_GER_15_0;Junkers Ju-52
-> please use Junkers Ju 52/3m (3m = 3 Motoren = 3 engines)as this was the orrect designation, the original Ju 52 with only one engine had a very short life and was retroactively renamed Ju 52/1m
MODEL_GER_16_3;Junkers Ju-287 EF-140
-> Junkers Ju 287 would be enough here, the progect designation EF.140 is not needed as it had already the RLM number 287 assigned.
MODEL_GER_25_6;Lutjens-class
-> Lütjens-class
MODEL_GER_20_1;V2A9
-> should be renamed V2A4b, the A4b was an enlarged version of the A4 with more range, A9 was only used for future plans using the A10 as launch and initial accelerator component and an improved A4b (named A9) as ballistic missicle with large warhead. This V2 was named A9/A10 during development.
BRIG_MODEL_GER_6_2;Hetzer
->Official name was Jagdpanzer 38(t), Hetzer was to be used for the improved version Jagdpanzer 38(d) (lengthened, widened, stronger engine, probably a larger gun). At best was Hetzer something unofficially used.
BRIG_MODEL_GER_8_2;PzKpfw.VIB Konigstiger
-> Either Königstiger or Tiger II
BRIG_MODEL_GER_10_0;SdKfz-231
-> Sd.Kfz. 231
BRIG_MODEL_GER_14_4;Me.155 / Ju.87C Stuka
-> The Me 155 may be a little early but either in this brigade modle or one later the Ju 87C should be replaced with the Ju 87T (navalized version of the Ju 87D).
MODEL_ITA_17_1;Junkers Ju.87D Picchiarello
-> Correct name is "Picchiatello"
MODEL_ITA_13_3;Reggiane RE.2001
-> Re.2001 (second letter lowercase)
MODEL_ITA_4_2;L.6/40 (and similar italian tanks)
-> I do not see any source supporting this naming, should be L6/40 or M15/42 etc
MODEL_ITA_13_8;Fiat G-91R
-> Fiat G.91
MODEL_JAP_13_2;Nakajima Ki-43 Haybusa
-> Hayabusa
MODEL_JAP_16_1;Mitsubishi G4M Ishikkiro
-> Do you have a source for this name? Should be either nothing or Hamaki.
BRIG_MODEL_JAP_14_2;A5M Claude / D1A2 Susie / B2M1
BRIG_MODEL_JAP_14_3;A6M2 Reisen / D3A1 Val / B5N1 Kate
-> Please do not use allied codenames like Claude, Susie, Val or Kate, the D3A may have been named "Kanbaku", no local name for the others known (at least from my side)
BRIG_MODEL_JAP_14_7;A7M2 Reppu / B7A2;
-> The B7 was called "Ryusei"
MODEL_CZE_13_0;Avia B.534 (and similar Avia aircraft)
-> Avia used a "-" as separator, only Aero used a "." as separator. Avia B-534 would be the correct name.
Sparviero;SIAI-Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero
-> Should be Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 but without the italian nickname
MODEL_USA_17_0;Douglas A-24
-> The army version of the SBD Dauntless was called A-24 Banshee
MODEL_USA_17_1;Curtiss A-25
-> the army version of the SB2C Helldiver was to be called A-25 Shrike
MODEL_USA_18_1;Douglas C-47 Dakota
-> US naming was C-47 Skytrain, Dakota was the RAF name for it.
EDIT: Uploaded a new version for 1.06A2 with some minor fixes and the shifted line in translation of japanese models fixed
EDIT December 11 2010: Uploaded a new file with errors fixed, thanks to Fürstbischof for finding these.
EDIT December 21 2010: Uploaded a new file with typo fixed and forgotten Nürnberg-class to Leipzig-class change.
EDIT January 30, 2011: New version uploaded to the last post.
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