Short AAR on US inactivity

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An unconventionally short AAR for your amusement.

The Game:

1936 Scenario
USA
moderate difficulty level

1936-1940

Not much activity in Europe or Asia other than the usual Anschlusses, Czech's, etc........... US WE slowly rises to peak of about 40%.

During these years invested in all 1 IC territories to build them up to 4 IC. Little unit production consisted of raising 2 marine divs, 1 fighter, 1 strat bomber, 1 torp. bomber, 1 naval bomber, 5 vanilla inf divs., 1 militia divs, 3 DD's, and 1 tank div.

1940-1942

Standard stuff with Europe set ablaze and Asia quiet. Germany conquers Poland, BENELUX, France, Denmark, Norway, splits Yugo with Italy.....

Italy gobbles up Albania. Bulgaria and Finland join Axis. Rumania neutral.

Russia DOW Axis in 1941. USA WE peaks at 74% by end of '41.

1942

This is ridiculous cries Roosevelt!!!! Russia overruns all of Europe except Sweden, Switzerland, Rumania, Greece, Iberian peninsula. Europe is blood red for communism! WE for US plummets to 2% as the average American is content not to enter the war.

Result, human player (USA) just sits there while the world rids itself of Fascism and Communism spreads like a plague!

Fun game, just thought I'd share with you all. Has anyone else had anything similiar happen to them?

 

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Bah! Thats bloody ridiculous!! Ive not played at USA yet (waited for carrier bug fix), but US WE should increase not matter if the aggressor is: Axis or Comitern!!

No wonder USA takes its time to enter.

I hope that IF this is the norm, there is a change to 106. I dont expect playing as US is going to be exciting at all, if the US doesnt enter the war!

This is cr@p. Unfortunately, I cant offer much help without playing and seeing for myself!

I'll keep an eye on this thread tosee what comments are added.

Welldone for stating..... well the obvious .

 

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Oooo...my, my, my

Originally posted by 2Coats
Bah! Thats bloody ridiculous!! Ive not played at USA yet (waited for carrier bug fix), but US WE should increase not matter if the aggressor is: Axis or Comitern!!

No wonder USA takes its time to enter.

I hope that IF this is the norm, there is a change to 106. I dont expect playing as US is going to be exciting at all, if the US doesnt enter the war!

This is cr@p. Unfortunately, I cant offer much help without playing and seeing for myself!

I'll keep an eye on this thread tosee what comments are added.

Welldone for stating..... well the obvious .

Come on, 2Coats, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel!

 

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Yeah it was pretty ridiculous alright. A couple of things I forgot to mention.

Used 1.05b patch.

Italy lost all of it's African possessions early in the war. After the UK et. al ousted Italy from Africa they just sat there for the rest of the war as well. Only a few Dieppe style raids against Normandy and Calais were conducted and these of course were immediately beaten back.

Japan stayed neutral throughout the war.

Australia in early '42 captured the "heel" and "toe" of Italy but no one came to help them out and they too were driven back. There seems to be a lack of coordinated allied landings in HOI.

 

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Same thing happened with me. Quite annoying when you've worked so hard to build up your army and beared the boredom of just sitting in the US for 5 years and then the WE plummets because your ideological enemy in Russia has taken over Europe. I posted once before about Soviet victories causing US WE to decrease, not much came of it. I sure hope they find a way to fix this soon.

 

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Satcho:

I see I'm not the only one to have observed this behavior. I'm pretty sure Paradox is aware of this problem. I only hope that they will address this issue in the next patch.

More of us need to talk about this issue as well as the lack of activity in the pacific island war. I can and do still enjoy playing HOI very much but these issues are kind of annoying. The only real threat if you're playing the axis is the USSR. The only threat if your playing as the USSR or UK is the axis (specifically Germany and Italy). Just my 2 cents.

 

[Satcho]

Also, since 1.05b, USSR seems overpowered. Well, maybe its strategy is just improved. In a straight up fight, it seems Germany wins, but USSR will just go through the Balkans and before you know it, Russians are in Austria and Southern Germany. The German AI really needs to learn to defend the Romanian/Russian border and not just the Polish-German/Russian border.

The way it is, if US does manage to get involved (thanks to Japan being silly, normally), there's not much of a war left. Just mopping up really. Unless you declare war on Russia, I guess. Then that could get ugly. And fun.

 

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Interesting that you mention that. I remember now what I observed in this game.

Russia crashed through the Hungarian border and annexed Hungary. Then the Russians dashed through norther Yugoslavia and took Venice. Next they took Czechoslovakia. After that Poland and Germany fell very quickly. Germany fell very fast because the Russians cut through East Prussia, crossed the Oder and took Berlin. Germany couldn't recover after that.

So it does seem that the AI when on the attack recognizes it must take the shortes route, many times leaving the flanks exposed, to get to victory point locations.

 

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I have one house rule that invlolves cheating. IF I am US and my WE doesnt get too 100 by June 15th 1943, I use the WAR cheat to raise it to 100. Normally I am completely against cheating, but we shouldnt be expected to play a whole game and do nothing.

Also I dont hve to use this rule often, cause Japs like to declere war on me in 1942.