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I played v1.5c on normal/normal

At the very first day I decided to give it all to sience. After dealing with steel and rubber shortage by trading coal for steel and oil (converted by 0.5 to tubber) i set sails to prepare my country for inevitable German invasion. I Gave Gdansk (Danzig) straight away in 1939 to win some time. I tried to acquire the most as a part of allied forces (new technology). I managed to develop to organisation level 63! I developed infantry and armoured forces, i did some steps to improve my naval and air forces, but realized after some time, that it is pointless.

Czechoslovakia fell, Hungary and Slovakia joined axis. Poland was doomed i thought, but then a great idea came to my bald head! Brits and French won't be able to help me nomather what, but on the east i had CCCP. What if i left alliance with French and Britain and joined Russia. I was soon to findout.

I knew that pact Ribbentrop - Molotov has been forgoten by the creators of the game. Just before the war i left alliance with France and GB and joined Russia (i was unable to repeat this in later games).

I organised all my forces in Warsaw hoping that Germans won't attack like Alexandru advised. When Germans attacked the front line was east from Warszawa (Warsaw) on the line between Wilno and Lvov. Our frieds from Russia gave me about 11 divisions to control on the front line, but when germans decided to attack Warsaw i lost cold blood and moved all forces to Warsaw. That was a mistake. I Left Lvov which was soon taken by Slovaks and I lost battle for Warsaw.
Sorry for being not too precise, but I deleted that save and I don't remember dates. Just before 1942 Germans annected me.

P.S.
Zawisza had great idea to transport troops to other country like Brazil, I'll have to try it.

If someone knows any other ways to survive German invasion as Poland, please write.

I know that sometimes if Poland gives back Gdansk and Czechoslovakia still exists it is possible not to enter the war, it happened to me two times but war with Lithuania and Latvia devastatef my economy.
 
Focus on nothing but inf techs and docs. I also built lvl 4 forts in ALL bordering provences to germany. I didn't do thi for the czech border and just garrisioned it.

I don't remember the precise details since it was a while ago but:

I had about 4-8 divs per provence border (depending on how many german provences could attack it) most being vanilla with the occasional arty brigade. Along the czech border i had 3-5 divs. My opening move was to take out ebling and konigsburg as quicjly as possible. This greatly shortens your lines of defense. For this strategy to work you MUST take those.

I then grouped my cavalry together and had some moblie groups of 3 inf divs behind the lines to move and re-inforce an attacked provence when nessisary.

I survived the war and managed to take 3/5 of germany over

Hope taht helps!
 
Great thanks for the tips, i'll get right to bringing thrm to life, and I hope I'll be able to write more detailed and interesting AAR.
 
Originally posted by przemek
Great thanks for the tips, i'll get right to bringing thrm to life, and I hope I'll be able to write more detailed and interesting AAR.
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You can "badboy" a little and attack/annex Baltic States (if you are Allies member, they will even help you). It not makes your defences better, but gives you vast resouce base. Brazil solution is also good, as rubber is priceless and invasion in 1936 is easy (just attack all important targets at once - being Allies memeber).

You can also try to become Axis member, that's interesting twist of action...
 
I spent many hours trying to defend my country, but still I was unable to defend myself against Germans. I could try to attack baltic countries but i don't know to change the government without making the dissent rocketing sky high by lowering the "food" for the people.

I am a relatively new player and I still have many things to learn.
 
Originally posted by przemek
I spent many hours trying to defend my country, but still I was unable to defend myself against Germans. I could try to attack baltic countries but i don't know to change the government without making the dissent rocketing sky high by lowering the "food" for the people.

I am a relatively new player and I still have many things to learn.
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Maybe start with Germany then?
Learn tactics, optimal research, resource handling, then go for Poland - no 2 on true veterans list (number one is of course Luxemburg). ;) :D
 
Maybe You are right. For over a month I try to survive as Poland and never tried playing different country, but i'm getting better and better each time.

Thanks for the advice :)
 
You need luck...and don't worry, that strategy worked for me only once, my next 1939 game ended in defeat...by 1941 he he..:D
 
1)When you joined allies? Try to do that as far as possible and then forget about reasearching all this expensive land doctrines.
2)In 1940 or 1941 you have to undertake some offensive actions against German minors to secure your resource reserve.
3)Wait for Soviet liberation :p Day of Sov DOW is the day of German defeat.
4)Don`t listen if they will told you to abandon western borders and create defense line on the Vistula river. Last time I followed this sugestions, I was anexed in Nov 1939
5)Don`t listen if they will told you to not reaserach tanks. Tanks are cool :D and suprisingly quite useful. My two division of 7TP`s do excellent job against poor Slovaks, Hungarians and Romanians :D

This way I played until middle of 1943, Germany was reduced to Berlin and Reichenberg so game was basically over.
This was on CORE mod.
 
Someone once said that the best way to win a war is to avoid her.

It is possible to avoid German attack when plaing Poland. Ir happened to me twice. I'll make AAR how it happened, but I believe that the key is to:
1. vote right during the elections
2. rise about 60 divisions
3. build line of forts along Polish-German border
4. place there your army (about 9 divisions per province) just after the second time the Germans ask for Danzig
5. give Danzing away on the second time
6. leave alliance in 1939 - 1940
7. hope Germany will declare war on Allies, not You

It worked for me twice!!
 
In my most successful game as Poland, I used the following strategy:

Immediately I began building fortifications behind the Vistula, and I continued doing this until a few months before the war. At this point I build AA batteries in those provinces. This may have been a mistake, as the Germans used far less airpower than I expected. But, maybe they didn't use so much airpower because they knew it would be ineffective agains my AA.

I focused research on infantry and artillery (insofar as it helped infantry). I built new divisions, but at a slow rate (conservation of manpower). I ended up with about three or four 3-division corps per two provinces. These units would often have to move around, to counter any German military buildups.

I ignored tank/airforce/naval research.

When the Germans attacked, they took over my western provinces without a fight, but couldn't crack the positions on the Vistula. The Slovaks were on their side, but they did not attack and I was not strong enough to attack them.

The breakthrough came when the Soviets declared war on the Axis, even though their only land connection with them was in Romania. This helped me tremendously. Strong Soviet forces smashed Romanian defenses, but then stopped as they were afraid to attack across a river. This meant that the Romanian army was weakened, but the country was not taken over by the Soviets. This is wher I came in. I was able to invade Romania, and annex it, and afterward I invaded and annexed Bulgaria and Hungary - all part of the Axis, so I took no dissent hits. With this power base, as far as manpower allowed me, I was able to build up my forces and actually begin an offensive against the Germans, who were already weakened from fighting on the western front.

I ended up taking over half of Germany, including Berlin, and I ended the game by acquiring some Chinese lands in the process of defeating Japan, who had joined the Axis.

Overall, Poland ended the war stretched from sea to sea once more, with some Chinese colonies to boot.

I think that for Poland, building fortresses is a necessary step. Fortresses, when built in the right place (behind the Vistula) have the same combat value as divisions, but don't cost supply and manpower to replenish. Six to nine divisions, in level four fortresses, behind a river, are much stronger, and more sustainable from a manpower/supply perspective, than, say, twenty four divisions with no fortresses.



Marek
 
Once when i played Poland when Germany went to war with France and Britain early in 1937 and were pre occupied in France and so i took th advantage of invading all the way to Halle before they sent any forces to contradict me and i pushed that little divsion led by Rommel away and pretty soon the French were pshing the Germans back as were the Belgians and by 1938 Germany was annexed by the 3 countries and Britain got Hamburg. But i took Berlin and thus my Polish Grand Empire was formed. Im might make an AAr about that in the future. But i sort of went don the wrongpath when i declared war on Russia but i managed to push them back to Kiev before they advanced.
 
My only succesfull game as Poland was attackting and annesing Lithuania and Estonia RITE away. THen NOT entering the Allies and waiting, in 1938 FUK declared war on Germany (for its annexy Czech, Austria,) then when she withdrew her armies to the French border (the french were doing GREAT) I declared war and just moved my armies across the fronts. this was around 42, i got my org up to around 65-70, and steamrolled into berlin before they could redirect forces to my line. Then I joined allies and "assumed military control" so I could tigten the slack on Germany and me and France annexed her half and half. It was my only succesfull game as Poland versus Germany.
 
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