Single holding Provinces

[Lordy's]

Well they've already confirmed on discord that indeed those are baronies, not counties. Counties is the little silver crown you can see on the other screenshot.

You can even see the blue borders and names. You can see the names of only three of all the holdings on the map inside the county. Why? Well I guess because those are the three fortresess or castles, and the other ones are towns and parishes (or churches) I suppose, whose names don't show up maybe? But yeah, thats the county. The country is a bunch of on-map provinces, or holdings, that are now the baronies, towns and churches.


Well obviously, but I think its just a map representation of a church owned holding. Like in CK2, its just now on the map

Interesting. If anyone doesn't want to count: The visible area shows roughly 150 baronies. I did count areas which are empty but look like they might be their own area, so my counting is not that 100% exact.

Yes, but you know that bishoprics are not in the middle of nowhere right? they are always around a town or city, and this is not represented on the map. For it is certainly not a monastery by the way. My 2 major problems with this is that 1. It is not depicting castles and bishoprics around towns or cities on the map (as they should be). Except for military-focused castles that would serve as a fortress in the region. 2. Buildings that represent this are needed, not just a Castle Town IV building to do.

Also hope that they at least add some city visuals (houses) to all kind of holdings (castles + churches). While castles are acceptable without a town, these cathedrals just look incredibly silly.

 

[Vohen]

Well they've already confirmed on discord that indeed those are baronies, not counties. Counties is the little silver crown you can see on the other screenshot.

You can even see the blue borders and names. You can see the names of only three of all the holdings on the map inside the county. Why? Well I guess because those are the three fortresess or castles, and the other ones are towns and parishes (or churches) I suppose, whose names don't show up maybe? But yeah, thats the county. The country is a bunch of on-map provinces, or holdings, that are now the baronies, towns and churches.


Well obviously, but I think its just a map representation of a church owned holding. Like in CK2, its just now on the map

Man, I just hope they improve the visibility of those dotted and double line borders, it's so damn tough to actually see them in some places...
Just in this picture, the marshes of East Anglia and the forests of Kent had me bending over backwards trying to figure out what the borders were, it's extremely hard to nearly impossible to do so.
Something clearly has to be done there.

 

[Federalist girl]

It's kind of non-sense to leave holdings alone in the middle of nowhere on the map, bishoprics were always surrounded by towns or cities, the same with most castles, which were on the side or inside the city, like London, Paris, Constantinople, Milano, Caen, Rouen, York, and others.

I mean, they're abstractions, right? A bishopric isn't some parish church in the middle of nowhere. It represents a town with a major religious building inside it. Similarly, a castle isn't just a fortification on a hill -- but it's a fortified settlement.

At least, that's the way it was in CK2. I'm looking forward to see how holdings are used in CK3. Ideally, there will be some acknowledgement in terms of buildings or population that the 3 holding types are all settlements of some sort and not just free-standing large buildings.

 

[Austregisel]

I mean, they're abstractions, right? A bishopric isn't some parish church in the middle of nowhere. It represents a town with a major religious building inside it. Similarly, a castle isn't just a fortification on a hill -- but it's a fortified settlement.

At least, that's the way it was in CK2. I'm looking forward to see how holdings are used in CK3. Ideally, there will be some acknowledgement in terms of buildings or population that the 3 holding types are all settlements of some sort and not just free-standing large buildings.

Something like that, I think it needs to be more representing the cities around the bishops and castles, the Castle Town IV building in a castle is very little, York Castle is not around a simple town, it's around a whole CITY! In the map of CK3 only one castle appears, 50% of the problem would be solved by placing houses around the castles and bishoprics, and with buildings that represent it, on the map they are alone in the middle of nowhere. That would help, London could be a castle in the game and it would already be like a Castle City III, Paris would be a Castle with Castle City V, Constantinople being a Castle with Castle City X. It has to represent the cities, it has to represent the cathedrals, the palaces with big cities around, otherwise the King of France will have its capital in Melun, miles away from the city of Paris ruled by a mayor.