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And now for the next super-exciting chapter of Iceland's adventures in places!

WE HAVE BEEN BETRAYED.
Scotland, whom we believed to be our faithful vassal, has declared war on Iceland.
However, all Scotland really wanted was to be free -

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They requested white peace immediately. "You want to be free? You should've just said so!" was my take on it.
I made my intentions clear by immediately canceling the vassalization status of Norway and Estonia. They were, at this point, mature enough to venture out of their nest alone.

Scotland appears to have taken the hint, and quickly requested alliance, with what I imagine would be their apology for their terrible behavior, had game mechanics allowed for diplomatic apologies.

I move my capital to the new world, specifically, to Manhattan, renamed Nyjorvik ("New York", as "York" was "Jorvik").
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This complete's Iceland's migration to the americas. The Icelandic english region now has a big "Icelandic England" over it.

With explorers, I find south america, mostly occupied by Amazonia at this point, so I make another state where there's space to spare.
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Then I stopped playing. When loading my game, I couldn't help but notice this:
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Now THAT'S an Aztec empire!

I successfully land in south america - but apparently the central american empires are plagues by pirates...?
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Realizing war is coming, I begin moving my slider to offensive.
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Glory to us indeed. Also this:
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+2 prestige. Yeah.

Unfortunately Edvard the half-giant dies.
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And not even in battle. May the Aesir have mercy on his soul.

Then I get this event like 3 times, increasing tax in my new capital and east england:
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Nyjorvik's base tax went all the way to 10. That's... Not half bad.

My explorers circumnavigate africa and reach the red sea. On the way, they spot Madagascar.
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Why the asian sprite? They've got a unique religion though!

And my children are already showing some muscle around europe:
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Good job! Norway follows with victories over Al-Alemand and Skandistan, and Scotland against Faransa. They call me to each war, which ends with me accepting and then pretending there's no war.

I reach the far east.
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It appears Fujiwara is dominating Japan. I really don't like the vanially shogunate system.

Hello, what is this?
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From my other game as Granada, I found there's an event that turns Iberian cultures if they change to islam or christianity, and Catalan becomes Zaragozi when muslim. And then you can get nationalist rebels to spawn.
Still, expected Zaragoza, not Mallorca. Either way, good luck to Belearic nation.

Then I get the best leader ever.
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Which is good timing, as soon after I spot the nearby Iroquis at war with everyone and his grandmother.
As in the past, I get lucky with these wars. This will probably not happen when fighting the Aztec...
What happens? The Huron, Arawak and Aztec decide to dogpile the Iroquis. Lucky for them, the Sioux didn't join in yet (They're as big as the Aztecs!).
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The war's decisive battle - Iroquis' last battalion - all of their forces in one stack, actually - against a hybrid force I barely managed to scrape together in time to fight.
Most native americans have better tech and troops than me, so I make use of native-american core lands I hold to build better troops.
I also run out of manpower, so I build some cavalry mercs.

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Note that the purple area under the green (iroquis) territory is colonies, rather than spoils.
Eventually I take all of their land. I can't annex them, so I take all their land instead.
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Iceland's presence in the americas grows to this:
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The iroquis will not hold out long - it's as good as ours once the truce expires.

Did I say before all of England was cored? I can't remember. If I did, I was mistaken -
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NOW England is cored. I mean, all my english provinces are cored.

Our genius, Magnus, passes away after the war, not having seen any combat himself:
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Maybe the Aesir sent him to lead us into this war, and then leave?

In the NEXT update, the carribean heathens try to colonialism ME, Scotland asks for a piece of the american pie, attempts to make population grow faster result in Iceland's policy being forever remembered as obscenely racist, and Astrakhan is the new Khazaria.
(I would post it now, but image limit)

And now for ElderDialogue:

Elder:"Edvard! Loki has the scots - they are attacking us!"
OtherElder:"Our warriors are unable to fight - the wind knocks up their skirts and our warriors are blinded!"
Messenger:"A word from Scotland! They say they demand freedom and independence!"
Edvard:"...Great Scot, that's it?"
Elder:"...Ugh, of course we rejec-"
Edvard:"Tell them that if they wanted independence, they needed only to ask. In fact, to make my gesture crystal clear, I am granting independence to Estonia and Norway as well."
Scotsman:"I'm a shocked scotsman!"

Edvard:"I'm moving the capital."
Elder:"What, all of Reykjavik!?"
Edvard:"What? No! Just my chair." *places chair* "My chair is the capital."
Elder:"Sir, we've found empty lands to the south, as well."
Edvard:"Do you want me to move my chair again?"
Elder:"No?"
Edvard:"Then send someone there!"

Elder:"Edvard, we've got news of some of the natives. Their nation is THIIIIIIIIIIIS big." *spreads hands*
Edvard:"What THAT big!? I'm going to have to beat them with my chair!" *picks up chair, slips, falls down the stairs*
Elder:"He's dead. NEXT!"

Elder:"Quick, why there's no one significant around! Let's make our property more taxable!"
OtherElder:"Ooh, I love taxes! Also the gold we keep minting! I use some of it to make gold-plated valkyrie model armor."
Elder:"...What?"
OtherElder:"It's for, uh, military research!"

Meanwhile in the far east...
Sailing Elder:"Greetings, thin-eyed dwarves! Is this Niðavellir?"
Shogun:"なにこれは? しろいばけもの!"
Sailing Elder:"...Uh, right... Which way is Ásgarðr?"
Shogun:"寒人! 動物!"
Sailing Elder:"...Riiiight, we're going to leave now."

Meanwhile in Europe:
Estonian:"What Russia?"
Mallorca:"I LIVE. I HUNGER."

Meanwhile in North America:
Magnus:*descends from the sky in a ball of light* "I am Magnus of Jötunheimr, son of Njörun, come to Miðgarðr to help you deliver light to the heathen SKRÆLINGS!"
Elder:"Everyone hold up your Mjolnir talisman!"
Iroquis:"KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA okay we surrender just let us keep the chief's house!"
Magnus:"Deal. Okay I'm done here." *ascends back to the sky*
 
Awesome :D

By the way, what change made the American natives grow so large? I want some too!

The dark continent Scenario is rigged to have more "native" countries, and also to have all countries modernize spontaneously without meeting the requirements.
For example, Amazonia,Madagascar and Aotearoa (Native New Zealnd) only exist in the dark continent scenario.
If you play as a native american in this scenario, you have a very good chance of colonizing europe!
 
The dark continent Scenario is rigged to have more "native" countries, and also to have all countries modernize spontaneously without meeting the requirements.
For example, Amazonia,Madagascar and Aotearoa (Native New Zealnd) only exist in the dark continent scenario.
If you play as a native american in this scenario, you have a very good chance of colonizing europe!

Muslim and Native barbarians in our Europe. Disgusting.
 
Brilliant! The ElderDialogue I mean.

How is your tech progress going? How long until you overtake the Native Americans?
Thanks! I'll never know my humor is not absolutely terrible without positive feedback :happy:

My tech is absolutely terrible, most of it being between 8 and 10, except for government, which has reached 16, thanks to free universities in England.
I'm very grateful for having native-american cored lands, as they allow me to build second generation cannons (they are at tech levels of 16-18, average), whereas I cannot even build the first cannons.

As for when I'll overtake the native americans - not by the end of the game, methinks. With my inflation above 60 and their tech ahead of me - and the gap only widens! - I think all my time spent laying low and burning inflation, plus the sheer power of the Aztecs, spells doom for a dream of a united icelandic americas.
With some effort, I may be able to acquire south america - the Inca empire never united, and Amazonia doesn't seem to be growing. Unless, of course, the Aztecs get there first!
 
This AAR inspired me to try my own Iceland game. barring having to reload once because pretty much every one and their mother decided to try and kick my butt at the same, time, it is going pretty well so far.
 
I was wondering, does the "I'm a shocked Scotsman" line in the ElderDialogue :)D) come from the horrible history series?
Nope! I've never even heard of horrible history :eek:hmy:

History_Buff said:
This AAR inspired me to try my own Iceland game. barring having to reload once because pretty much every one and their mother decided to try and kick my butt at the same, time, it is going pretty well so far.
Mind sharing your strategy?
 
So last episode, we've left with Magnus, err, leaving us.
I get this guy instead:
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Not too shabby! But no Magnus. He'll do.

This is one of the provinces I took from the the iroquis:
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Just in the nick of time! I send in one colonist and instantly the entire population turns into Odin-worshipping nords. The magic of colonists!

Did I mention I get attacked by the Huron? Oh. Must've slipped my mind.
Because the war was helluva difficult. It was long and exhausting. I had to rebuild my stacks several times - with inflation now above the 60s, I am not a happy nord.
And then I made another mistake.
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This deal gained me tons of land, but also tons of rebels - and I broke the infamy cap.
The inuit, with whom I've been peaceful so far, declare a punitive war on me.
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Oh, I just can't resist! I'm gonna annex those kids!
The Sioux join in - but on my side. Apparently they have warned the Inuit or something? This makes the war easier than it would otherwise be.

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State of the world (and more tax in england!) before Sioux intervention. Of course, the Sioux wouldn't save Nyufundnaland...
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But patriot rebels did!
Apparently my people are very patriotic. Whenever an icelandic province is occupied for a while, I always see patriots pop up and liberate it for me.
Thor is proud of you, peasants! :laugh:

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Genoa rebels in Corsica from Sardinia. It is then attacked, and annexed, by Faransa. Interestingly, in it's brief existence, it was "The Kingdom of Genoa".

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Soon, the remains of Djata Kurufa will be no more - their culture gone forever from this world.

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I get this event several times. One option gives 1 colonist and +10% tax, and the other gives 3 colonists. I pick the one which gives more tax.

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Ooh, Scotland wants a piece of the american pie, too? Very well, I will not deny them this. But I don't want to fight the Aztecs...
I take a quick look around before I click, let a couple of weeks pass.
I see Aztecs aren't really interested in participating, so I click accept and immediately white-peace the Aztecs.

I kinda hope for a bit of peace for now.
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What? The native caribs are going to try and make ME into their colonial property?
I would laugh but they're ahead of me in tech. Fortunately for me high piracy in my coasts prevents them from landing troops - the pirates blockading my ports decimate their ships. They eventually white peace, not having landed a single soldier in the mainland.

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The scottish settlement in north america. Adorable isn't it?

Now for something a little different:
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Religious map of Iceland-controlled North America. As you can see, I've converted most of the natives to odin worship.

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Cultural map of the same area. Note that I've got like 3-4 provinces at a time under settlement policy - I do this for the boost in population growth and nothing else. Unfortunately this means some of those native cultures are bound to become extinct, and our Jarls will be accused of racism or something.

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Religious map of europe at the time. As you can see, not only will catholicism become extinct any time now - so will orthodoxy! Worship of christ is doomed to vanish forever from this world.
The keen eyed will spot a strong Jewish Catalonia, a Jewish Byzantium, a religiously united Jewish Sibir, a Jewish Mentese taking up most of Anatolia, and the one that gave birth to all of them, except for Catalonia - Jewish Astrakhan, who seem to have become the new Khazaria.

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Progress of core acquisition. Quite random.

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My financial status at the time. If not for the inflation, I'd call this good.

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I get several of these, followed by COMETS!

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C-O-M-E-T-S-!

Then I get two messages that break my heart...
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Nooo! Not my two children, whom I've raised from religious infancy to independence! Why must you two fight!?

This is unacceptable! There is no mechanic in the game for me sending troops to stand between the two armies and call for a united front in the name of Mjolnir. I reduce myself to console-stopping that, as really, if they had refused to stop all that - I'd have a proper, but not-recognized-by-mechanics, casus-belli, to topple both of them back into being vassals, in a long and bloody war nobody really wants.
(Have I done the right thing...?)

After that, I notice shawnee declared independence and irresponsibly decide to annex them.
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Oh, look! Seville! Now Mallorca has a DoomBuddy!
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For now, the state of the americas seems stable. I'll try laying low for a while.
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Oh gods. Looks what Astrakhan did.
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That's Israel. It gets annexed by Syria soon enough, but then breaks free again, and then annexed - I notice it popping and vanishing several times.

That's it for today - here's some ElderDialogue:

Rikard:"I AM THE NEW PRESIDENT! I mean prince!"
Elder:"That you are sir - there are smoke signals to the north. It appears the Huron are preparing to attack us."
Rikard:"Then start fighting?"
Elder:"...Any specific orders?"
Rikard:"Recruit the natives to fight them - they're better fighters than our own, overall."

Wounded elder:"Sir!" *barfs blood* "Sir, our victory is crushing!"
Rikard:"Good! Demand everything."
Wounded elder:"Yes sir." *promptly dies*
Elder:"Sir, we look evil and greedy now! We've been too demanding!"
Rikard:"So?"
Inuit:"I will shoot lazers from my glasses to pacify the world of your EVIL!"
Iroquis:"Yeah smite the guy who took my stuff!"
Sioux:"Nope!"
Rikard:"...Okay we're taking the chief's hut too."
Iroquis:"Noooooooooo~!"

Meanwhile in Europe...
Man in Corsica:"Hey, you think I could pretend to be a Genoese?"
Other man in Corsica:"What's Genoa? Wasn't that like an empire that spanned the southwester half of europe long before the plague?"
Man in Corsica:"I have no idea! As for my own question, of CorsICan!" [/reference]
Sardinian:"No don't put on that crown!"
Faransan:"Sorry too late!" *squish*

Back in the americas...
Elder:"Colonists! Colonists everywhere."
Rikard:"Those are political supporters of colons, right?"
Elder:"Sir, the scots are attacking the inuit and Aztects and requested our, er, approval."
Scotsman:"Their spiffy glasses and human sacrifice rituals are no match for our bagpipes!"
Rikard:"...Yeah you go ahead with that. I'm taking a break to go fish."
Elder:"Take a number, sir."

Scotsman:"I will call this NEW SCOTLAND!"

Elder:"Sir, most of the natives now bear the Mjolnir talisman."
Rikard:"That's good."
Elder:"We've also got a rush of settlers in native-majority lands."
Rikard:"Where are they coming from? I don't see a drop in growth for any of our other lands."
Elder:"As far as I know? From Valhalla, or just generally from Asgard's direction."
Rikard:"Also our coins are worth nothing. We should issue a new kind of coinage to reset this."
Elder:"We can't. It's against the, uh, rules of physics. Yeah."
Rikard:"...From now on our currency is fish."

Elder:"Oh no! A comet! It must be a sign - the world serpent awakens!"
Scotsman:"THE NORS DID IT!!!"
Norwegian:"NO YOU!"
Rikard:"...Are they... Are they fighting?"
Odin:"UNDO UNDO!!!"

Back in Europe...
Seville:"I LIVE! Must... Consume... NATIONS!"
Astrakhan:"AHAHAHA JERUSALEM IS MINE! Now I'm going to give it independence so that hebrewstan can be born!"
Israel:"I'm israel, daddy."
Syria:"Omnomnom!"
 
I would be glad to share my strategy. I didn't convert for starters. Was planning to, but it hurt my income to badly so I decided against it. My opening moves were the same as you, conquering Scotland and Norway. However, I didn't release Scotland because I wanted all of the British Isles. I was planning on colonizing Norway and releasing it, but I never got the chance. I was unable to colonize London early like you were, so I was forced to colonize my way south the slow way. That meant that by the time I fought Djata Kurufu, the had already got their expansion event, but they went bankrupt and I pounced on and crippled them. I managed to get the British Isles and establish a presence in the Low countries and then I focused my attention on conquering Al Alemand, which I have almost achieved. I even allied with Skandistan for awhile before they broke it. The rest of my strategy is to finish off Al Alemand and then focus on trying to defeat and conquer Faransa, which holds almost all of France and is spilling over into Spain. I managed to curb my Inflation and keep it from skyrocketing by keeping myself to just barely turning a profit through minting and hiring a string of Masters of the Mint. However, I failed to establish a presence in the New World because New Foundland is right outside my colonial range and my low naval tradition prevents me from creating a colonial range advisor. the Inuit have blobbed up there and I am thinking of carving my first colony out of their carcass but I don't have a CB on them yet and building an army big enough to try that would strain my finances at the moment. For the time being, I have colonized Greenland and am waiting for it to core and then planing to use it as a springboard into the America's. Basically, I traded success in the New World for success in the old. Given your greater success in the New World, I would gladly accept any tips for either this game or future ones. My main problem besides that is that I lack allies and the Muslims are all teaming up with each other. They also keep declaring war on me without even being decent enough to have a proper CB. Luckily, I have avoided a combined attack from all of them but I am currently trying to fight off a quite strong Morroco and a quite strong Faransa at the same time.
 
<Lots of juicy strategy here>
Well, if you chose to stay catholic, then you're not being a true nord =P You could've always modded Asatru to give the same monetary benefits catholicism does, to keep things fair.
I would suggest allying the Catalonians (if they survived) and the Russians (if they are willing AND stronger than Jochi).
You may want to annex Sardinia and Aragon - they are your religion, and would otherwise be sitting ducks, doing absolutely nothing but wait to be annexed.
Aragon can be released if you colonize one of their cores in Iberia - but I doubt you'd be able to do that in your current situation. At least then they'll turn USEFUL. Sardinia has no hope!
No, wait. Sardinia has more than one nation's core. Nations that can be released on the mainland as well would probably be useful.

Try to ally one of the muslim powers in north africa, if you can.

If you want to get colonizing fast somewhere other than the new world and have QFTNW, try conquering Aotearoa or Madagascar.
 
I might just be in a particularly good mood this morning, but this ElderDialogue (and the update in general) was really great!

Do you think your inflation will ever go down to, say, below 50? Maybe even below 40? :)