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PJL

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Playing as Sweden, and fighting Denmark and Russia, I was being baldly beaten by Russia in Finland, and when they offered ne a generous peace agreement (one province only to them plus some money), I was told to accept it, otherwise the nobles would start to get restless, and I would incur a stabilty loss. So I did so, and STILL got hit by a -3 fall in stability. Is this correct!?!?!? Would stability have been even more badly affected if I had refused the offer?
 
Sounds like a bug to me. I never lost stability for accepting a peace. Anyone else?

Here's a tip on how to avoid taking stability hits from peace offers though.

I've played sweden a lot in various scenarios, and a lot of the time you're faced with some very rough two front wars. I know just the scenario you're describing, hehe.

A lot of the time, I just let Russia take a few provinces and suffer heavy attrition losses, while I finish off the danes before taking him on. A heavily fortified Ingermanland or Karelia during a hard winter will reduce his forces quite nicely :p

While fighting the danes, Russia will offer peace all the time, and once he starts taking serious attrition losses, or his economy is feeling the strain from the war, he will start offering some 'generous peace offers', that you will lose stability to if you decline. So, when I know that I can beat the computer later on (after I finish building troops, or after I finish a war on another front *cough* annexing the evil danes *cough*, etc.) I just let the peace offers (tiny icons in upper right hand corner) sit there and dont click on them. After a while they will go away and you won't lose any stability to declining them since you never even read them.

Once I get the upper hand in a war, I usually start reading them, since they never give 'generous peace offers' when the human player has the upper hand.
 
Originally posted by Johan IV
...start offering some 'generous peace offers', that you will lose stability to if you decline. So, when I know that I can beat the computer later on ... I just let the peace offers (tiny icons in upper right hand corner) sit there and dont click on them. After a while they will go away and you won't lose any stability to declining them since you never even read them.

Now that sounds like a bug to me ;D

But, I'll have to keep it in mind... I was on the same end of the boot, as Russia (and since my BB was so outrageous), having declared war on Crimea, I wound up fighting PL, AH, Sweden, England and the German States as well... I was concentrating on trashing the Poles, et al (I had to take nearly everything to get them to give up Estonia, Livonia and Kurland (gee -- why was my BB so bad? :)), and I got a forced peace from Sweden (while I had Stockholm, he'd run up an impressive tombstone count walking through Norway (Denmark) (hey -- I inherited that one!) and was forced to peace by 10K Swedes... (all I thought I had to do was hide in the corners... any Canuck knows that Swedes don't go into corners! :)

I guess that's one for 1.09...

Cheers!
 
Dunno if I would call it a bug...


Servant: Sire a diplomat from Russia is here to see you.
Me: Have him executed immediately!
Servant: But Sire he said he had an important message from..
Me: Didn't you hear me? I said execute him immediately or I shall have your head as well!
Servant: Yes Sire...

Never received his peace offering, due to an unfortunate 'accident' so why should I suffer for it? :p

Hear no evil, see no evil :p
 
Originally posted by PJL
Playing as Sweden, and fighting Denmark and Russia, I was being baldly beaten by Russia in Finland, and when they offered ne a generous peace agreement (one province only to them plus some money), I was told to accept it, otherwise the nobles would start to get restless, and I would incur a stabilty loss. So I did so, and STILL got hit by a -3 fall in stability. Is this correct!?!?!? Would stability have been even more badly affected if I had refused the offer?

I've never seen that myself.
Are you shure you didn't just get a random event that lowered you stability by 3 at the same time ?
 
Re: Re: Stability loss after a forced peace

Originally posted by Huszics


I've never seen that myself.
Are you shure you didn't just get a random event that lowered you stability by 3 at the same time ?

Well, I never noticed a political instability random event at the same time, but since it's only the first time I've had a forced peace, I can't rule it out completely. However if the same thing keeps occuring I shall certainly mention it again.
 
Re: Re: Re: Stability loss after a forced peace

Originally posted by PJL


Well, I never noticed a political instability random event at the same time, but since it's only the first time I've had a forced peace, I can't rule it out completely. However if the same thing keeps occuring I shall certainly mention it again.

Please do, since if it is happening it shure is a bug that needs fixing. =)