State of the game: characters not marrying and families dying out

[dfnehring]

I really like Imperator. However, the problem of characters not marrying, families dying out, and me ending up within generals and political office holders has spoiled the game for me since release. In practically every single game I have started, from release to the game's current version, this has happened to me. Still, I really like the game, and I would like to start playing again. Before I do so, a few questions:

1. How often do other players experience this problem? What are your ways to overcome it through in-game strategies?

2. Any mods that help fix this problem? I have tried various 'more marriage' mods, but they did not seem to help.

3. Is this problem fixed in the Imperator Invictus overhaul? I am between starting a vanilla game with marriage mods and trying Invictus for the first time.

 

[IsaacCAT]

The wiki identifies this problem and gives you some solutions here https://imperator.paradoxwikis.com/Characters#Family

Arrange marriages for all your close relatives and marry your far away relatives to keep a growing family with the bloodlines you like.

You can always adopt characters. This is an action that can be triggered from your ruler character menu.

I never had a problem with this. But I tend to play more Republics. What I also do is to welcome all the heads of families from the nations I invade fully. This increases the pool of minor characters.

 

[dfnehring]

Thank you. The first strategy you describe makes sense for monarchies, and I will give it a try. For republics, like Rome, this seems more of a problem for me. Playing as Rome, I routinely run out of generals by mid-game, as families die out. I could, of course, admit heads of families from conquered nations, but this would eventually for a rather very ahistorical game, with the Roman Republic being run by an elite composed of Greeks, Carthaginian, and Celtic families. What else can be done to keep the original family lines from dying out in a republic?

 

[IsaacCAT]

There are many examples of Roman Consuls that were not born in Rome but one could say that they were from that culture.

You can force conversion to characters and grant citizenship to foreign characters but you cannot force assimilating to Roman.

In my game with Bizantion my major families have enough characters from the Propontic culture to fill in all the roles, but I get that trying an only Roman culture game with historical borders will require many governors/generals/admirals and officials that will surpass your major families size.

 

[dfnehring]

Of course - the Roman world was ethnically diverse for much of its history. Consider, say, the North African origins of most of the contenders for imperial rule after the assassination of Commodus or the ways in which people of Germanic origin rose to elite status in the 4th and 5th century. I just meant that the same kine of diversity seems odd for the Romans during the period covered in the game. Then again, I was not thinking about playing as Rome for my next game anyway, and the suggestions in this thread have motivated me to start another game. So thank you for the suggestions.

 

[SAS]

I have not had this issue in a while. The only issue I run into late game is a lack of leaders for my massive legions if I dont integrate concoured families. My nations families have kids and marry I just have a lot of leader slots that need filling.