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A) You cant download the patch as it is not beeing hosted anywhere here. you would have noticed that if you would have read the whole issue.
B) as Vicksburg said, its about becoming a beta tester and that wasnt my intention
C) You dont need a special steam version of the patch, as you never needed with any HoI series. See A)
D) Link?
(in addition to Vicksburg: this issue isnt to close as it hasnt been solved)
edit: Ever saw the patch behavior by steam regarding Vic/EU? It may take months for them to apply it.
B) as Vicksburg said, its about becoming a beta tester and that wasnt my intention
C) You dont need a special steam version of the patch, as you never needed with any HoI series. See A)
D) Link?
(in addition to Vicksburg: this issue isnt to close as it hasnt been solved)
edit: Ever saw the patch behavior by steam regarding Vic/EU? It may take months for them to apply it.
A) The latest beta patch has the same checksum as the official patch. If it ain't the same patch, then I must be missing something here.
B) If you don't want to "beta test", then fine by me, whatever. Afaik, I post bugs I discover in the tech thread (same as everyone else) out of my own will and has nothing at all to do with "beta testing." I've entered tons of "betas" before just to get a game demo.
C) It's not a special version of the test. The checksum is the same.
D) I'm not posting a link for you when I already listed how to easily get it. This issue is making mountains out of molehills. I still think a sticky by the devs on the issue and lock is the best course of action cause you can complain all you want and nothing will change.
And if it takes months for steam to apply something, then why are you stubbornly waiting for steam when the answer is staring right in front of you? Edit 2: This means to follow the pinned thread here.
Edit: And if you don't want to follow my suggestion but still want to complain, go post something on steam's forums instead of posting your grievances here.
B) If you don't want to "beta test", then fine by me, whatever. Afaik, I post bugs I discover in the tech thread (same as everyone else) out of my own will and has nothing at all to do with "beta testing." I've entered tons of "betas" before just to get a game demo.
C) It's not a special version of the test. The checksum is the same.
D) I'm not posting a link for you when I already listed how to easily get it. This issue is making mountains out of molehills. I still think a sticky by the devs on the issue and lock is the best course of action cause you can complain all you want and nothing will change.
And if it takes months for steam to apply something, then why are you stubbornly waiting for steam when the answer is staring right in front of you? Edit 2: This means to follow the pinned thread here.
Edit: And if you don't want to follow my suggestion but still want to complain, go post something on steam's forums instead of posting your grievances here.
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Yeah, that's a great idea - let all Steam users apply as beta testers and every single person will send a message to Martin to provide them a patch. I guess DH developers always dreamed of tonnes of spam messages in their inbox.
You are trying to derail the issue here. There is a problem with patch availability for certain group. This problem is easily solvable by providing a patch here on forums. What is preventing PI to do that? Why there is an ineffective policy that pisses off a group of legitimate customers in first place?
You are trying to derail the issue here. There is a problem with patch availability for certain group. This problem is easily solvable by providing a patch here on forums. What is preventing PI to do that? Why there is an ineffective policy that pisses off a group of legitimate customers in first place?
Or the patch can be solved by bugging people on Steam and not buying from Steam. Or you can use the zip/rar provided by the devs, out of their own sheer goodwill, via email. Instead you are bugging (probably the devs) on a forum thread that probably only the devs (not Paradox employees and definitely not Steam employees) and other users read. (I would like to think the devs use some sort of bot/mass emailer to send out patches for the beta, although if they do it manually, karma to them)
Again,
The DH dev team has already stated numerous times they have no way of doing what you are asking. The problem is steam being slow on releasing a patch.
Again,
The DH dev team has already stated numerous times they have no way of doing what you are asking. The problem is steam being slow on releasing a patch.
Or you can pirate a game instead and have 0 problems with patching. It is a solution to a problem and by your logic we should probably use it just because it is a solution. Amirite?
Hold on there. Being a customer and posting about legitimate concern with a product on a technical support forums is now called "bugging the devs"?
Again, the part you bolded means that they can't control when patch will appear on Steam.
However they can control when patch appears here on forums. I can get patch for the games I own here on forums by going to technical support section. I can go just right now to Victoria 2 Technical Support section and download the patch, apply it and play the game. I can't do the same with Darkest Hour. There is no real explanation of why patching policy with Darkest Hour is so different and what is restricting the publisher to let customers download patch from forums.
One more thing: you are not a moderator or a technical support representative and nobody forces you to read technical support section. So if you don't like this thread - don't read it and don't people where to go and what to post.
Because I still respect Paradox enough to not pirate their things, even patches, but this arbitrary "you can't post the patches on the forum" rule for Darkest Hour when not a single other game on this forum has the same restriction is making me reconsider that.
First off, don't put words in my mouth about things I didn't say. "staring right in front of you" means to use the beta testing system, I specifically stated that multiple times. I offered you various legitimate ways to workaround your problem. You offered a straw man argument.
You have a legitimate concern. You posted it. You got your answer. The devs can't do anything about it. Other people posted it. Beating a dead horse isn't going to achieve anything. Again, either wait, bug the proper people about it (Steam), don't buy from steam, or use the workaround offered by the devs.
They can't control what patch will appear on Steam. They also can't control what patch appears on the forums due to legal contracting agreements. If you want to bug someone about that, you should not bug the devs. The most effective channel would be to bug Steam. If you wanted a higher chance of someone from Paradox's legal team to see this, I would either send a pmail to a staff or a support ticket.
This quote just makes me realize that no matter how good something is, someone somewhere will find something to complain about it.
Paradox's policies on the game, support, and DRM in general are going to be some of the best out there. I was just reading the EULA for another popular game I play, and there are clauses such as "you agree that you have no monetary claim over anything invested in the game" including points, units, skins bought with money, "agree that we may monitor your computer for unauthorized software and remotely terminate the game," etc. etc.
And, the developers effectively did put a way to go around the "not on forums" legal contract via beta testing. (written with a
)Which makes it so that you should be grateful someone who is unpaid is taking the time to try to help you instead of being rude.
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If you're not paid by them then stop white knighting them.
You can go into pretty much any other tech support forum on this site and find the latest patch for your game, you cannot get into this forum without registering the game. This is a good system because it allows people who own the game to get access to the patch without any hassle.
Darkest Hour does not have the patches posted on the forums and the only way to get the patch is through the ingame patcher. This means that people who own the game from a distributor that has not updated (steam) have the old version while people who pirated the game have easy access to the latest patch.
And the 'proper' people to bug is not Steam, it's Paradox for not allowing patches to be posted for some draconian reason.
I cannot believe that, that pirate from Bosnia gets to play DH 1.01 before us legitimate Steam users can...
I shall post this link again since people remain adamant in refusing to read it http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...est-Hour-become-even-better!-We-need-you-NOW!
(No, the "BETA" is not a "BETA version", it is the same version as 1.01, so stop complaining)
(No, the "BETA" is not a "BETA version", it is the same version as 1.01, so stop complaining)
I'm not white knighting Paradox. I'm defending the DH team who read this forum and who gave you the link/method above to patch your steam game and have no control over the patching process. Does no one read the posts/stickies?
The proper people to bug is steam for being lazy and not updating the patch when it's been released and it's a simple matter of copy+paste.
Then I fail to see why they can't email the 1.01 the same way if they're so adamant about not providing a direct download on the forum.
At this point I'm less angry about updating the game and more angry at the roundabout and illogical way they expect me to deal with the problem.
No, bugging Steam to do anything won't help, because according to P'dox, out of the hundreds of big and small developers they let release games through their service, they've decided they hate Paradox enough to delay their updating process while no other company has the same problem.
1.01 B3 Checksum = 1.01 Full Patch Checksum. I don't know how clearer I need to be (if checksums are not the same, they are different versions...and vice versa seems fairly logical to me). The email has a steam version. DH devs can't post one on the forums.
I am a Steam user and have just downloaded and applied the patch from a well known German gaming news site (4players). So, if they can put it up, why can't it be put up here?
@Limith: you are doing a miss-discussion. Please quote, where ANYONE blamed the Devs for patch policy.
A) Every single game of PI has patches linked in the Forums. DH hasnt. Reason?
B) I dont wanna get my patch with some "workaround" i want it to get an official, normal way. That is by launcher or by tech support forum.
C) No one... NO ONE is blaming the Devs.
You so much made clear that your the all-knowing-guy around, why dont you call in a PI Mod to
a) close the thread or
b) make them see what we are complaining about?
Instead your just arguing a issue beeing seen as relevant by all but YOU. Question yourself.
I have no idea if posting this link here is lega, but as the patch is up at 4players, i will just post the link they provided for 1.01 patch:
http://www.4players.de/4players.php...est_Hour_A_Hearts_of_Iron_Game/Patch_101.html
This patch doesnt work for steam users, as there seems to be some regkey missing. The patch doesnt recognize DH installed. If theres someone who can prvide the missing regkey, feel free to post.
If this isnt legal please feel free to edit this.
A) Every single game of PI has patches linked in the Forums. DH hasnt. Reason?
B) I dont wanna get my patch with some "workaround" i want it to get an official, normal way. That is by launcher or by tech support forum.
C) No one... NO ONE is blaming the Devs.
You so much made clear that your the all-knowing-guy around, why dont you call in a PI Mod to
a) close the thread or
b) make them see what we are complaining about?
Instead your just arguing a issue beeing seen as relevant by all but YOU. Question yourself.
I have no idea if posting this link here is lega, but as the patch is up at 4players, i will just post the link they provided for 1.01 patch:
http://www.4players.de/4players.php...est_Hour_A_Hearts_of_Iron_Game/Patch_101.html
This patch doesnt work for steam users, as there seems to be some regkey missing. The patch doesnt recognize DH installed. If theres someone who can prvide the missing regkey, feel free to post.
If this isnt legal please feel free to edit this.
Right, had the same issue at first, but adding the Reg is not the problem:
I follow Final_germany's example and say that if it is illegal or not allowed or not wanted to post this here, please edit this post and remove it.
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Darkest Hour Team\Darkest Hour]
"InstallPath"="C:\\YOUR\\STEAM\\DH\\PATH"
"Version"="1.00"I follow Final_germany's example and say that if it is illegal or not allowed or not wanted to post this here, please edit this post and remove it.
Sigh. There should be no reason why you are messing with the registry.
Just sign up for the "beta" and use the steam version of the patch from the email, or find a steam version of patch 1.01. With all the time you guys have spent on the thread, you would've gotten the patch via the "beta" system already.MartinBG said:
@Limith: you just dont get it eh? We are not talking about getting a beta patch the email way. We are talking an official solution. So please, do us all a favour and stop annoying us by telling us to get a beta patch. (I already got it but thats not my intention with this thread... so you got nothi0ng to say to my intention, please..please... dont make yourself too important and just leave.... please!)