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TeHb Z Shadow

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Description
[4.0.11] [3f89] I wasn't able to get achievements since 4.0.0-4.0.2 in my non-moded ironman game save

Game Version
[4.0.11] [3f89]

What version do you use?
Steam

What expansions do you have installed?


Do you have mods enabled?

No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.

Paragraph about the mechanics of blocking the receipt of achievements
:

Since 4.0 players can obtain achievements in non-ironman games. According to these changes, using a console forbids players from obtaining achievements.
A few days after 4.0 release (May 8) I was asked to check how exactly saves are protected now.
I created a new game, made a save, used the console for a small change, and made a second save. I Compared both save files using notepad++ and Compare plugin.
There were 2 changes:
"cheated_on_save=no" => yes
and 1 more entry was removed:
achievement=
{
27 40 43 45 49 50 53 61 67 68 75 102 110 111 114 117 118 120 126 127 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 159 160 161 163 164 168 169 175 181 183 184 192 193 194 195 196 197
}
Without the last (or both) part you will not be able to receive achievements. To check your save file you need to unzip save file, open gamestate file using Notepad++, open search (Ctrl+F) and type "clusters=". Achievement part should be right above it (example in attachments).


Bug part:

Because of the 4.0 release state every time I took a break I made a manual copy of my ironman save just in case.
Today I decided to edit my last save file to turn ironman off, and I also decided to check if everything is alright with achievement just in case.
To my big surprise in my 2326 year save achievement entry was missing. I decided to check when this problem appeared. I checked my first save (created on May 5 (22:00 +3) in 4.0.2 patch) and this entry was missing even there!
And I am totally sure it's not my fault, because I took no actions with the file, because I didn't even know how the new system works (so I stayed away), and also there was no need to do it.
No mods were used in first few days of game.

So for whatever reason my first game I started in 4.0 blocked my ability to receive achievements for the entire run.
When I added "achievement= { ... }" part back to the save and loaded the game, I got "Smörgåsblorg" achievement (Obtain DNA from six phenotypes as an empire with the Evolutionary Predators origin).
I have almost all phenotypes except toxoids, so i am totally sure i would receive this achievement a week+ ago.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
I can't reproduce this bug (i tried to create a new game with my empire in 4.0.1 branch, play for 5 years - no problem).
I will include my empire in a txt file (russian names) just in case.

Steps to identify the bug:
Start a new game with ironman (Evolutionary Predators?), play for a some time (5-10-25 years), create a save
Unzip save file, open gamestate file using notepad++
search (Ctrl+F) for "clusters="
look above it, you should see "achievement= { }" if everything is ok.


How to fix your save:
Start a new game, make a save. Open gamestate file (using instruction above), find "clusters=" and copy "achievement={1 2 3... }" block, insert it into your broken save gamestate file above "clusters=".
Check screenshot in the attachments to see how it should looks like.
Save it and then archive both files in to Save file using instruction https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Save-game_editing#Compression_on_Windows


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Again same problem. I started new game in 4.0.13 23.05
I finished it today (4.0.13) and decided to check is there any problem.
In year 2215 save file i have achievement string, and in 2227 i am not. I made a break between this games. But i still don't even know why it's happening.
Now i need to check my save files every time just in case of this problem? It doesn't feel right. Who knows how many other players have the files in broken state.

After i loaded my last save with "achievements" part added (i was doing Starlit Citadel Cosmogenesis) i got "I am the invader now achievement". Not even funny =(

Just in case it matters - i am playing russian localization
 

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thanks for the details you posted

had the same problem with the "Smörgåsblorg" achievement not being recognized despite meeting the all criteria (no mods, ironman save so no console, evolutionary predators origin, and having "smorgasblorg_phenotypes = 9")

just checked my latest save file contents, and as you had experienced, there was no entry for the achievements array, no idea when it vanished, when starting a new game it exists, but it got lost at some point.

like you suggested, having to check if the save file is missing that entry shouldn't be necessary
 
thanks for the details you posted

had the same problem with the "Smörgåsblorg" achievement not being recognized despite meeting the all criteria (no mods, ironman save so no console, evolutionary predators origin, and having "smorgasblorg_phenotypes = 9")

just checked my latest save file contents, and as you had experienced, there was no entry for the achievements array, no idea when it vanished, when starting a new game it exists, but it got lost at some point.

like you suggested, having to check if the save file is missing that entry shouldn't be necessary
It's bad this problem happened with someone else, but at the same time I am glad my information helped to figure out what happened.
Do you need any help to fix it back? All you need is 7-zip and change a few settings, like in instruction. After that you can reload you save (unless your empire is gone) and get achievements.

P.S. Extra information: i am not using Cloud, i don't trust it. So i have Cloud saves in Steam ON, but i turned it off in the game settings.
 
Found another player with similar problem, added link to bug report and files
 

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Another bug report with save file with this problem

Only thing I did was observe to see if theres holy guardians then reload earlier save
 

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Description
[4.0.11] [3f89] I wasn't able to get achievements since 4.0.0-4.0.2 in my non-moded ironman game save

Game Version
[4.0.11] [3f89]

What version do you use?
Steam

What expansions do you have installed?


Do you have mods enabled?

No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.

Paragraph about the mechanics of blocking the receipt of achievements
:

Since 4.0 players can obtain achievements in non-ironman games. According to these changes, using a console forbids players from obtaining achievements.
A few days after 4.0 release (May 8) I was asked to check how exactly saves are protected now.
I created a new game, made a save, used the console for a small change, and made a second save. I Compared both save files using notepad++ and Compare plugin.
There were 2 changes:
"cheated_on_save=no" => yes
and 1 more entry was removed:
achievement=
{
27 40 43 45 49 50 53 61 67 68 75 102 110 111 114 117 118 120 126 127 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 159 160 161 163 164 168 169 175 181 183 184 192 193 194 195 196 197
}
Without the last (or both) part you will not be able to receive achievements. To check your save file you need to unzip save file, open gamestate file using Notepad++, open search (Ctrl+F) and type "clusters=". Achievement part should be right above it (example in attachments).


Bug part:

Because of the 4.0 release state every time I took a break I made a manual copy of my ironman save just in case.
Today I decided to edit my last save file to turn ironman off, and I also decided to check if everything is alright with achievement just in case.
To my big surprise in my 2326 year save achievement entry was missing. I decided to check when this problem appeared. I checked my first save (created on May 5 (22:00 +3) in 4.0.2 patch) and this entry was missing even there!
And I am totally sure it's not my fault, because I took no actions with the file, because I didn't even know how the new system works (so I stayed away), and also there was no need to do it.
No mods were used in first few days of game.

So for whatever reason my first game I started in 4.0 blocked my ability to receive achievements for the entire run.
When I added "achievement= { ... }" part back to the save and loaded the game, I got "Smörgåsblorg" achievement (Obtain DNA from six phenotypes as an empire with the Evolutionary Predators origin).
I have almost all phenotypes except toxoids, so i am totally sure i would receive this achievement a week+ ago.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
I can't reproduce this bug (i tried to create a new game with my empire in 4.0.1 branch, play for 5 years - no problem).
I will include my empire in a txt file (russian names) just in case.

Steps to identify the bug:
Start a new game with ironman (Evolutionary Predators?), play for a some time (5-10-25 years), create a save
Unzip save file, open gamestate file using notepad++
search (Ctrl+F) for "clusters="
look above it, you should see "achievement= { }" if everything is ok.


How to fix your save:
Start a new game, make a save. Open gamestate file (using instruction above), find "clusters=" and copy "achievement={1 2 3... }" block, insert it into your broken save gamestate file above "clusters=".
Check screenshot in the attachments to see how it should looks like.
Save it and then archive both files in to Save file using instruction https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Save-game_editing#Compression_on_Windows


Upload Attachment
File(s) attached
Sorry to disturb, but I found your topic about issues with achievements, and within my 3rd run I have not cheated (nor used mods) within the game but used "save scam" tactics for anomalies, and from the start of the game till this stage at least 2 achievements like Supremacy (win war against another empire (won 1 war)) and It Followed Me Home (space amoeba event) should pop up, but none of them work. P.S. Starting run was on the 4.14 version, and the last one, "Best Yuht loc NEW" is the latest version.

P.S. it was hell of pain to obtain Influence to capture long distanced locations for secure my empire and do not want to start the whole run again. Can you help with understanding what is a problem with the save that no achievements are working?
 

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Sorry to disturb, but I found your topic about issues with achievements, and within my 3rd run I have not cheated (nor used mods) within the game but used "save scam" tactics for anomalies, and from the start of the game till this stage at least 2 achievements like Supremacy (win war against another empire (won 1 war)) and It Followed Me Home (space amoeba event) should pop up, but none of them work. P.S. Starting run was on the 4.14 version, and the last one, "Best Yuht loc NEW" is the latest version.

P.S. it was hell of pain to obtain Influence to capture long distanced locations for secure my empire and do not want to start the whole run again. Can you help with understanding what is a problem with the save that no achievements are working?
Yeah, you have this problem. I can fix it for you, but i need your new game save from day 1 (just start any game), so i can get your achievements ids you not obtained yet. But i don't know will you both achievements or not, anyway you will get a new one.
I don't know why it's happening, i hope devs will read this thread, check our save files and find something common in them.
 
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Yeah, you have this problem. I can fix it for you, but i need your new game save from day 1 (just start any game), so i can get your achievements ids you not obtained yet. But i don't know will you both achievements or not, anyway you will get a new one.
I don't know why it's happening, i hope devs will read this thread, check our save files and find something common in them.

Mate, you are a hero for me. Thanks a lot!
Followed your instructions in this and another thread and copied the "achievement= { -- } " line from the new to old save. And around 7–8 achievements pop up after 1 in-game day.
P.S. As far as I can see, after 4.14 and till 4.16 achievements were working properly in my saves, but after 4.16 I have had no achievements popping up. Thus, I think that the bug was in between version changes.
 
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