Duplicate Stellaris - AI immediately leaves Federation after accepting to join

[gyarados93]

Description
AI immediately leaves Federation after accepting to join

Game Version
3.4.3

What version do you use?
Steam

What expansions do you have installed?


Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
I am fanatic materialist and authoritarian, the Quarren Empire. I have a research federation with a fanatic materialist that’s egalitarian, the Cataclysm Consumer Products There is a a 3rd empire in question here, Selkath Dominion, that is also fanatic materialist and egalitarian. They have 2 subjects one is fanatic xenophile and materialist, the Uriy, and the other is fanatic spiritualist and pacifist, the Mishar. Now the Selkath have been invited to my federation 3 times. And every single time they have accepted and then immediately left, like within the same day. First time the Cataclysm invited them. Second time I invited them. The third time, a new member of the federation invited them that joined between times 2-3 (the Backatta who are xenophile, militarist, and materialist). This showed me that a new member could join, and that is something with the Selkath specifically. The Selkath have always had the Mishar as subjects. They subjugated the Uriy between invites 1-2. I think the logic that makes them accept the invitation in the first place is separated from the logic used to keep their spiritualist subjects loyal, and it doesn’t conflict until they join the federation. I am attempting to switch to egalitarian ethos here soon and will try and replicate it again with then the same ethos as the Selkath.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
Have an egalitarian fanatic materialist overlord with a pacifist fanatic spiritualist subject. Be an authoritarian fanatic materialist with a federation that includes an egalitarian fanatic materialist who are the strongest empire in the galaxy. Either have the other member or yourself invite the egalitarian fanatic materialist, that has the spiritualist subject, into the federation given that they show they will accept.

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[pmchem]

related, see also:

Stellaris - Empire accepts invite to Federation and immediately leaves [3.4.3][9d15]

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[Meme_Drone [Qloc]]

Hello!

Thank you for the report!

We are aware of the issue, it has already been added to our bug database.

 

[Gethylus]

Same problem here after 3 month as a megacorps forming a trade ligue with another megacorps who have 3 vassal

i think it’s also weird that you can’t change the federation contract before signing like I can’t take a dude to my federation without his vassal but I can’t change it through vote after wich is kinda dumb :/

but more importantly it’s very frustrating to get the ai to join you just to leave 5 days later like …. Wtf

 

[hart30]

If the rule for vassals automatically joining a fed at fed founding would default to "no" instead of "yes", then this issue would not happen. The fed then could later vote on the topic, and an empire which would usually leave because it hates a specific vassal would vote "no".

 

[Gethylus]

Not really because I manage to force a no on vassal through commands

then every year they each ask to change it to yes and I’m force to use command to make sure they each refuse because either one have vassals that have contrary ethic to their own it’s really taking away the pleasure to play other thing than fanatical purifier / hive mind…

 

[fourteenfour]

boy would it be nice to have an issues list we can search to know if you actually acknowledge a bug